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Hannibal

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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2014, 12:41:52 PM »
1.  No problem for painters of flat, usually one tube lasts for many years !!!  so buy one pair of each colour for your life time, irrespective of your age.
2. Why is this group not banning tobacco and cigarets, much more nicive to health.  I would sign this ban immediately.
3. I feel happy that they do'nt ban canvas paintings done already (in case of fire), that contains so many toxic substances since over 1,000 years on the planet European area in museas...
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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2014, 11:13:00 PM »
It stands to reason Nick. If Cad is being legislated away, there's less economic incentive to to keep it in production. Those that still use it will likely pay a premium.


Jus' sayin'


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Nicholas Ball

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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2014, 03:44:43 PM »
Yippee, only problem now is the price of Cadmium has increased!!! :(

Brian

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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2014, 02:03:49 PM »
Well for now it looks OK, just received this


 
Cadmium Ban News
By Julie Caves · On December 16, 2014

Good news!

We have just heard from Howard Oakley, the artist who submitted a lengthy technical paper to the EU about the proposed cadmium ban in artists paints, that the European Chemicals Agency (ECHA) have decided to not go ahead with the ban, for now at least. The efforts of all who left comments on their website and got the word out to other artists means we will have the colours so many of us need for our work.

The ECHA concluded that artist’s paints are a minor contribution to the overall cadmium input with a negligible level of risk and “that the proposed restriction is not justified because in reducing the risks from cadmium in artists’ paints alone, this restriction under REACH is not considered to be the most appropriate EU wide measure”.

Dr Oakley mentions his concern that while many individual artists wrote opinions, very few organizations presented arguments or studies. He says: “I fear that this is not the last such threat. Cadmium will return, and cobalt and other substances will reach the agenda in the future. If there is no-one prepared to present the case for painters in the UK or EU, we will always be easy targets.”



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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2014, 05:39:11 PM »
I wonder how much of the lead from the paints has ended up in the water system over the last 500 years...and we're still here and we did it without organisations like the EU...give me strength! It's time to stock up.
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2014, 02:15:23 PM »
Yes, there are always a few spoilsport.
 Even if it goes well for all our.
 But times goose variably, you take the painted figures as Lolly rubs her or you skin so a.
 Even as a child learns this, do forbidden things especially fun.
 In this sense, I suppose even a nose full of turpentine fragrance,
 long as there is this middle ...... :o :o ;)
best regards
Wolfgang


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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2014, 02:05:52 PM »
There was a similar crisis a number of years ago with all of the colors with Mars in the name going away.  I have also heard of issues with Burnt Sienna and how it is produced such that production may cease of that color as well.


I still have a number of Mars Brown/Red etc. and plenty of Burnt Sienna as well to last me into the afterlife.  Fortunately we use such small amounts and the manufacturers adapt.


I have more of a an issue with paint lines going west such as lovely Floquils which were my paint of choice for plastic models.  Humbrols now have a new formula etc, etc.


Part of the hobbyist life it seems.


mark  8)



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alfsboy

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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2014, 01:42:58 PM »
They banned cellulose/nitro paint for cars quite a few years ago .I used tons of it for painting little metal trucks and taxis in pantone colors for promo company give aways .I did them by the thousands per month.I was worried about getting supplies and if I would have to convert to 2K paint which needs airfed masks etc.I had no problem up to when I retired and when I checked the auto store  yesterday they were still selling the special mixer bottles I used so just ignore  all rules because everyone else will .You will find lots of ways round it ad the rules only apply to EU made products  .Just buy a large tube or two to put away .I bought a tiny tube of alazarin crimson in about 1975 and its still only about a quarter  used.It cost me 14 UKP way back then .A fortune.

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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2014, 01:34:20 PM »
Give me a brake >:(  More liberal crap from a bunch of Cry Babbies :'(  I would buy all that paint I could get and tell them to stick it up where the sun don't shine >:(

Roger

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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2014, 01:01:57 PM »
OH Ek ill have to start painting with snot then! ;D  hey Roger point taken mate but hey  RoHs compliance Wee compliance etc
(I'm working in quality) is ok but this bit about Cadmium Just a  Bit OTT me thinks :o

Gerry, from my experience of H&S, COSHH, etc. etc. the more of this nonsense that is pushed out the more likely people are to say what a load of b*ll*cks and ignore it, ultimately putting themselves at real risk.
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gerry Larkin

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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2014, 12:52:37 PM »
OH Ek ill have to start painting with snot then! ;D  hey Roger point taken mate but hey  RoHs compliance Wee compliance etc
(I'm working in quality) is ok but this bit about Cadmium Just a  Bit OTT me thinks :o

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2014, 07:48:16 AM »
Join the club lads, Emperor Obama's people have banned the import of all sable brushes because one type of sable is on the endangered list.
Reductio ad absurdiam...the Erie Pennsylvania Museum of Art hold painting classes...BUT...you can only use water based oils as it is a "Green" community and will not allow oil paints in the facility. For those of you who have never tried water based oils...its like trying to paint with snot.
One can only wonder what the Sistine Chapel would look like had it been done in acrylics....

Nicholas Ball

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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2014, 06:19:04 AM »
As said by that great philosopher  Sir Edmund Blackadder IV

Blackadder :   Well Baldrick, pull my trousers down and spank me with a spatula, these men of science probably think we can't get up in the morning  and manage to  put our socks on our feet!!!!

Baldrick:  Hands,  my Lord

Blackadder:   WHAT !!!

Baldrick:  I think the expression is "manage to put our socks on our hands" My Lord

Blackadder  :    My point exactly Baldrick!!!!

Baldrick:   Shall I get the spatula now, My Lord

Black adder:  Oh very well !!!!!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Roger

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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2014, 03:53:25 AM »
Aren't you so pleased there`s people working tirelessly to ensure our safety and wellbeing?
Roger Newsome.
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Nicholas Ball

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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2014, 06:26:11 PM »
I dispare, what the heck is going on, there are bombs being dropped all over the world, they are ruining rain forests for lithium in battery cars that no one wants, computers and metals being dumped in places like China, along with burning electric wiring ( very good for the environment ) and what do they  focus on!!!!  o.o2 grams of cadmium diluted in water!!!!   don't these people have better things to do and more dangerous materials to stop!!!!

these are the people that stopped 4 star petrol because of lead, replacing it with Benzine, which is far more dangerous ( in fact they have now decided that diesel is now  far far worse than 4 star!!! after persuading every body to buy diesel cars!!!!! )

these people just make things worse in every sense. wouldn't surprise me if they don't suggest replacing Cadmium with Uranium !!!!!!!

rant over, I'm stocking up on cadmium paint!!!!