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Title: New Renaissance figures
Post by: errant49 on May 25, 2020, 09:35:10 AM
Two kings of France for the italian wars
Louis XIIth (Neckel, now Schmalkelder) and François Ist (Wilken)
Eric

Title: Re: New Renaissance figures
Post by: marko on May 25, 2020, 11:37:28 AM
These are great and I love the heraldry on these!


Is that beehives and bees on Louix XII - which I have in the back of the memory somewhere?


mark  8)
Title: Re: New Renaissance figures
Post by: Hannibal on May 25, 2020, 11:55:13 AM


YES !!
 Louis XII leaving Alessandria to attack Genoa, by Jean Bourdichon

 (https://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/19/31/59/25/voyage11.jpg)
King of France Louis XII in 1507 riding out of the fortress of Alexandria with his army, in order to retake the city of Genoa, which had rebelled against him (January to May 1507 campaign). Fifth illuminated miniature in the manuscript Le Voyage de Gênes (ca.1500), by Jean Marot (ca.1450 - ca.1526). The motto "NON UTITUR ACULEO REX CUI PAREMUR" means "the King whom we obey does not use his sting", referring to the ancient Classical belief (Pliny, Seneca) that a colony of bees (or wasps) was ruled by a benign king bee in an ideal society. Thus bees and a wickerwork skep are embroidered on his tunic, to suggest to his rebellious subjects in Genoa that if they will come back to order no harm will befall them. The royal heraldic badge of the porcupine is shown embroidered on the tunics of two of his retinue who precede him. A porcupines was the usual personal symbol of king Louis XII.


King of France (https://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_French_monarchs) from 1498 to 1515 and King of Naples (https://www.wikiwand.com/en/King_of_Naples) from 1501 to 1504. The son of Charles, Duke of Orléans (https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Charles,_Duke_of_Orl%C3%A9ans), and Maria of Cleves (https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Maria_of_Cleves), he succeeded his cousin Charles VIII (https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Charles_VIII_of_France), who died without a closer heir in 1498. Before his accession to the throne of France, he was known as Louis of Orléans.
Title: Re: New Renaissance figures
Post by: Christoph on May 25, 2020, 12:13:44 PM
Great painting on some great figures again!
Christoph
Title: Re: New Renaissance figures
Post by: Christian on May 25, 2020, 01:33:03 PM
Great work, Eric!!!


Bg Christian
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Post by: Joerg on May 25, 2020, 02:11:39 PM
Wow !
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Post by: merlino on May 26, 2020, 02:57:02 AM
wow!  Great !
Title: Re: New Renaissance figures
Post by: Christoph on May 26, 2020, 06:15:41 AM
I really like the illustrations of the manuscript "Le Voyage de Gênes". It shows some very interesting details.

Sadly no flats edited till now really based on these.

If you are interested here´s the link for some more:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Le_Voyage_de_G%C3%AAnes


Christoph
Title: Re: New Renaissance figures
Post by: snagy on May 26, 2020, 06:30:39 AM
Top paintwork, Eric!
Thank you for the historical background, Michel.
Brgds-
Sandor
Title: Re: New Renaissance figures
Post by: zinnmartina on May 27, 2020, 06:24:47 AM
Very top!Is this the armour F I. did wear at Pavia?
Title: Re: New Renaissance figures
Post by: errant49 on May 27, 2020, 06:51:16 AM

Not Pavia, MarignanNobody really knows which armor Francois did wear
The idea comes from a later painting with  the lilies  of France and  the F for François
Some even wonder if François  did really fight at Marignan
He was there but did he  fight ?
Eric
Title: Re: New Renaissance figures
Post by: Hannibal on May 27, 2020, 06:58:57 AM

Indeed Marignan (he was made prisoner at Pavie).


I found this on the net:


(https://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/19/31/59/25/marign10.jpg)



Detail of a drawing of the Battle of Marignan.  Assigned to the Maître de la Ratière. Milan, around 1515, In the Library and archives in the Castle of Chantilly (north of Paris).

Title: Re: New Renaissance figures
Post by: Brian on May 28, 2020, 02:14:50 PM
Well done Eric  :)
Title: Re: New Renaissance figures
Post by: zinnmartina on May 29, 2020, 08:32:14 AM
@errant49Thank you for teh answer.