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Title: Prince Eugene Livery
Post by: marko on July 04, 2017, 12:10:04 PM

Richard posted this topic which was having issues displaying and I have corrected -


Hello All

Kovar has edited a set named Prince Eugen gives a costume party. Amongst the characters there are some servants. For painting them, I would like to know the household livery of Prince Eugen.

Could anybody tell me what and how is this livery ?

Richard


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Title: Re: Prince Eugene Livery
Post by: Richard on July 05, 2017, 09:37:51 AM

Thanks Marko

here are the missing pictures

Richard

Title: Re: Prince Eugene Livery
Post by: Nicholas Ball on July 05, 2017, 04:02:38 PM

Sorry, can't help with the colours, but what a lovely set, looking forward to seeing these done :)

Title: Re: Prince Eugene Livery
Post by: Mike G on July 05, 2017, 05:12:04 PM

I believe this is his coat of arms. Can't find anything on livery however.

Title: Re: Prince Eugene Livery
Post by: Hannibal on July 06, 2017, 02:06:16 AM

Good luck, this seems to be a real hard challenge !!!!

Title: Re: Prince Eugene Livery
Post by: Kulmbach on July 06, 2017, 06:30:23 AM

Could it not be a good idea to ask Kovar about it? He is a friendly and helpful person.
Jan

Title: Re: Prince Eugene Livery
Post by: oleg on July 06, 2017, 06:47:02 AM

As far as I know Kovar passed away not so long ago.
Oleg

Title: Re: Prince Eugene Livery
Post by: gerhard gady on July 06, 2017, 08:27:52 AM

Yes, Mr Kovar sadly passed away in Dec. 2016.
Greetings
Gerhard

Title: Re: Prince Eugene Livery
Post by: willie on July 06, 2017, 10:58:48 AM

Ok looked at my books on costumes and fashion and did not come up with any thing on male staff. I did came up with  parlourmaids  1735-1745. What years are talking about. ??? Willie

Title: Re: Prince Eugene Livery
Post by: errant49 on July 07, 2017, 02:14:22 AM

This is a picture of a diorama in the Interlaken museum
It shows the livery : gold laces on black
Eric

Title: Re: Prince Eugene Livery
Post by: Richard on July 07, 2017, 04:36:54 AM

 The word of the flat thin figures is marvellous. You collect informations about your littler characters and many people come and friendly help you in your quest.
Thanks !
However, despite the willingness the answers are sometimes not totally right. For the picture given by Bob, the featured charachter is Emperor Karl the 6^th. For the one by Eric, this is an other set by Kovar : Prince Eugen receives the order of the Golden Fleece. In these two cases, the servants can not be the ones of the prince.
Here is a drawing by A Wilke of  a drum of Eugen's dragon regiment. Are the dress colours the same as the livery or just the reversed ones of the regiment (red with black cuff) ?
Richard

 

Title: Re: Prince Eugene Livery
Post by: Richard on July 07, 2017, 06:05:29 AM

Hello Willie

Sorry, I forgot to say the years are about 1720, as the year of the building end of the palace Upper Belvedere is 1722.

Richard