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Title: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: errant49 on June 30, 2017, 08:02:13 AM
Hi all
The site is really quiet by now
Here is a Carthaginian war elephant first issued years ago by a Belgian collector, Gaston lacomblez
The mould has been recently cleaned and the figure reissued by a german collector
The engraving is not teh best but finally the figures is not so bad; anyway quite a rarity
Eric
Title: Re: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: Mike G on June 30, 2017, 08:29:27 AM
I like it. Do you know who engraved it Eric? 
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Post by: Richard on June 30, 2017, 09:21:35 AM
Congratulations, Eric, for the result as the figure seems to be not very easy for the painting.

Richard
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Post by: willie on June 30, 2017, 10:17:56 AM
Nice job Eric ;D   Some times these elephants are hard to paint,but come out very nice. Willie
Title: Re: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: errant49 on June 30, 2017, 10:26:58 AM
Mike, it was designed and engraved by Lacomblez
Eric
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Post by: johnr on June 30, 2017, 11:03:40 AM
Great job Eric.

John
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Post by: Hannibal on June 30, 2017, 11:20:22 AM
I believe the same was disputed on EBay from Gaston Lacomblez  unpainted this week for 99 euros!!! 

(https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/31/59/25/s-l16010.jpg)

not a high quality engraving ...
Title: Re: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: errant49 on June 30, 2017, 12:28:36 PM
Yes, you are right
Fortunately I did not pay this price
Eric
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Post by: willie on June 30, 2017, 01:32:17 PM
I would not pay that much either :P Willie
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Post by: Christoph on July 01, 2017, 04:24:36 AM
Nice painting Eric.
It is interesting what people think they can get for a unpainted tin figure.
Christoph
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Post by: errant49 on July 01, 2017, 05:16:02 AM
What was important to me with this figure was its rarity
It is my collector side which took over
And as you know what is rare is expensive... :-\
Eric
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Post by: Mike G on July 01, 2017, 07:56:00 AM
That engraving must have been really hard to paint. Really nice job Eric!
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Post by: Nicholas Ball on July 02, 2017, 03:34:57 PM
Very nice Eric.

Don't think I would pay €99 for a flat figure, however rare :(
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Post by: Brian on July 03, 2017, 01:16:03 PM

So why so much??  99 Euros for one figure which I assume is from a set so what am I missing??


Very well painted again Eric  ;) so now you can sell for hundreds hahaha 
Title: Re: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: errant49 on July 03, 2017, 01:41:41 PM
First I did not pay it that price, just half
Second it is not from  a set
Third this figure is part of the flat history
So, as I already said my collector spirit took over
It also made me get in touch with a very nice German collector
At last, as I painted it well enough , you know what..... I am happy !
Eric
Title: Re: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: Brian on July 03, 2017, 02:33:35 PM

A part of flat history, tell us more as I don't know  ;)
 Gaston Lacomblez  ?   figure now available again?  what size is the piece? and is the new cast the same as the old?   
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Post by: willie on July 03, 2017, 02:44:08 PM
That's what counts ??? As long as you  are happy with it then good  ??? In this day and age we all have to pinch are penny's  ::) Second do you know who makes it and think the would take confederate money ::) Willie
Title: Re: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: errant49 on July 03, 2017, 03:21:02 PM
Gaston Lacomblez was a Belgian collector
He issued a few elephants designed and engraved by himself and he also made some "cut out" from metal sheet
You can see two of his figures in the Douchkine book : the Indian frontal elephant (which should be unpainted in my postal box soon) and the big elephant fighting war chariots
The carthaginian and the indian elephants moulds has been cleaned and repaired by a german specialist and belong too a german collector
If some of you are interested I can ask him if he agrees I give his mail
He also will be in Kulmbach
Eric





Title: Re: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: Mike G on July 03, 2017, 04:54:43 PM
I would possibly be interested in the Indian elephants if he's using the molds
Title: Re: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: errant49 on July 04, 2017, 11:41:31 AM
Here is Porus
Much better quality than the Carthaginian
Really a nice piece
Very interesting to paint such a frontal figure
Eric
Title: Re: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: errant49 on July 07, 2017, 08:50:13 AM
First go to the figure
Rather hard because parts of the engraving are gone and I have to recreate them with paint
The picture in the Douchkine book helps
Eric
Title: Re: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: aba on July 07, 2017, 09:50:40 AM



Dear all,


there are even more existing but to my knowledge extremely rare. I attach an overlook. Some (many ?) of these being engraved on one side only.


Orginally it was planned to do these in a collaboration between collectors, Gottstein being part of this group.
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Post by: Hannibal on July 07, 2017, 10:04:26 AM
Excellent summary !!! very good postures also, diversified ....
Pity not better known ...
With my poor habit of the shows, I handled the picture a bit .....

(https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/31/59/25/2_g_la13.jpg)
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Post by: Mike G on July 07, 2017, 11:04:24 AM
Wow some of these castings are extremely elaborate!
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Post by: willie on July 07, 2017, 11:12:23 AM
That one bull or the figure that is face on. The ears are more like a butterfly  ::) I have looked at a lot of  live elephants face on and never seen anything like that :o . Now before anybody gets up set I am looking at this in real life :o I like the set and its a nice job. Willie
Title: Re: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: errant49 on July 07, 2017, 12:19:27 PM
Thank you Alexander for showing that
Wolgang Weiss sent me some pictures of these
A pity they are so rare
Eric
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Post by: errant49 on July 07, 2017, 01:56:10 PM
Coming slowly
Eric
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Post by: Mike G on July 07, 2017, 02:21:51 PM
That's not slowly that's light speed! I've been working on one of my sleds for 3 weeks!
Title: Re: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: Richard on July 08, 2017, 05:07:37 AM
Eric

I am impressed by seing you to undertake the painting of this sort of figure.
It is really a difficult challenge.

Richard
Title: Re: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: errant49 on July 17, 2017, 08:45:27 AM
Here is tha achieved figure
Not so bad  :) :) ;)
Eric
Title: Re: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: Richard on July 18, 2017, 06:22:56 AM
Rather well done. Congratulations !

Richard
Title: Re: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: errant49 on July 18, 2017, 07:13:18 AM
Michel I am not really convinced by your picture; too much light to my taste
I join an other picture  a little different from the first one
Eric
Title: Re: Carthaginian war elephant
Post by: Hannibal on July 18, 2017, 07:16:38 AM
OK, removed ...