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Title: Elephant war - Nubian
Post by: Daniel CANET on March 17, 2016, 03:43:18 AM

work in progressa very interesting painting flat; I try lighting against the light ; it is not easy  :-\
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Post by: Hannibal on March 17, 2016, 04:24:18 AM
Superb!! as allways .......
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Post by: snagy on March 17, 2016, 07:24:35 AM
Excellent work!
The representation of the lights (even on the sole of the elephant) is very realistic.
I also like the lion's head!
Overall: well done!!!
Br.
sandor
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Post by: Nicholas Ball on March 17, 2016, 07:33:49 AM
getting there Daniel. looking good
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Post by: Hannibal on March 17, 2016, 07:37:05 AM
Not sure of the location of the light source: one foot of the elephant (back right is in the light, should be in shadow, or the back left, not both; the trunk below the mouth has lightening ?, is the light therefore not zenithal, or from the viewer side? ... not all are matching with one source, perhaps reflection of a sandy ground ...
Painting of the black skins is excellent
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Post by: nmrocks on March 17, 2016, 09:37:51 AM
Beautiful figure Daniel, alot of action for a single casting, looks like this is how history prepared us for a bus ride! ::)
Ray
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Post by: errant49 on March 17, 2016, 12:48:30 PM
Are you a masochist to add such a difficulty to your painting which is already at the best ?
Against day is a real challenge
I can feel it on the elephant legs but not really on the rest of the figure
I remenber a Greg di Franco's Bonaparte you could look at
Eric
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Post by: Daniel CANET on March 17, 2016, 01:24:06 PM
thank's all
Eric, I know Greg Di Franco's Bonaparte, it is so beautiful that I wanted to try
there is still much work to reach what I want :-X :-X :-X
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Post by: Glen on March 17, 2016, 02:03:45 PM
The African skin tones are great. Overall elephant is great as well but I would agree about the feet lighting, the two center feet should be in deeper shadow since they are shadowed by the elephant's body and cloth cover - assuming I'm reading the light direction correctly, of course.


Press on!


Glen
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Post by: Hannibal on March 17, 2016, 02:53:09 PM
Good Daniel, you become more and more like a Japanese !!
Attention to perfection ...and ZERO defect .... !!!

 this will bring you even further higher in your way to the very best !!
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Post by: willie on March 20, 2016, 06:11:33 PM
I was just on GOOGLE and typed in Indian Elephants all Dressed up and found a load of pictures of elephants dressed up for Festivals. This should give you guys some ideas about painting elephants for Festivals  :o Willie
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Post by: Daniel CANET on March 24, 2016, 03:52:04 AM
a small work, again......
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Post by: errant49 on March 24, 2016, 05:10:13 AM
Let's say ... it is not bad ! ;) ;)
I just think the cast shadows under the ear and trump could be harder
The two left legs should also be more shadowed
And last but not least you could make the cover more dynamic with some more contrasts in the folds
The better you are, the more we want ! :D :D :D
Eric
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Post by: Nicholas Ball on March 24, 2016, 05:58:27 AM
Photos can be very deceptive, trust me I know!!! hahaha

As Eric said, the shading on the green could be a tad darker, bit it is a lovely piece Daniel. The Howdah especially
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Post by: Hannibal on March 24, 2016, 07:53:10 AM
Gosh!!!  This is now very impressive !!
I agree that seeing the shadows on the cover head of the elephant, some deeper shadows can be given to the green folds, and on the left back side of the green sheet.
 
As the light seems to come from beforehed upper right, light on the tail, and back shield and back leg are surprising, also on the trump end, below the elephant head.
But indeed some are maintained to keep the overall figure readable (especially if the background is maintained totally black)

Also perhaps add small shadow on the upper of the the trump, right under the red cover, instead of an intense lightening ...
Last detail, the special sword used by the cornac is white, strange shape and brillant, attracting a lot of attention; perhaps some shadow can be given to reduce that attraction point excessively ... (if the light is front right, the angle of the blade of the sword should not be directed to the person vieiwng the flat, but on the left, as the sword end is hidden by the howdah ... not in its front.
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Post by: Nicholas Ball on March 24, 2016, 08:05:36 AM
I don't think its fully finished yet Michel.
The white 'sword' is actually a pole with a hook and spear on the end. Elephants are a rather unpredictable beast, and in some cases would go on the rampage!!  with this in mind, the Cornac would stab this into the head of the Elephant to put it 'down'!!
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Post by: willie on March 24, 2016, 10:36:29 AM
 When I worked Bulls Elephants ::) as they call them in the Circus, we used what we called a Bull hook .  In my case it was a cane, with the metal end. My farther had been given the cane as a gift by the head Elephant man at MGM 8) In those days they had there own zoo. Some are small and this is what you use to work them. Hook on the back of the front leg they will lift there leg on the top with bring down there head. Never jab or poke hard or you just might fine you self flying threw the air. The guy who operates the elephant is the Mahoot or in Burma Oozie . In India its for life.  I think you are doing a good job on your elephant ;D At present I am working on a elephant myself hope to have it ready by May for the show at valley forge. So keep at it and its off to take care of my FLYING MONKEYS  :o Willie
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Post by: Hannibal on March 24, 2016, 12:52:20 PM
I see, but I speak about the Egypian sword, the kopesh, not the hook (indian Thotti).

(http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/19/31/59/25/khopes10.jpg)
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Post by: Daniel CANET on March 26, 2016, 07:08:30 AM
It is finished


who can tell me who is the engraver?
the base is marked : LM  KZ  R
KZ = Kieler Zinnfiguren fabrik


actually produced by Erika OCHEL
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Post by: Brian on March 26, 2016, 07:23:36 AM
Well done Daniel, do like this  (-;
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Post by: errant49 on March 26, 2016, 08:36:45 AM
Very nice   :) :) :) :)
LM : Ludwig Madlener
R : Rieger
Eric
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Post by: errant49 on March 26, 2016, 08:37:41 AM
Oups !
Rieger est le graveur, Madlener le dessinateur
Eric
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Post by: Hannibal on March 26, 2016, 09:45:25 AM
Splendid !!!  another Masterpiece of Daniel !!
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Post by: Nicholas Ball on March 26, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
Exceptional painting Daniel.  Very very nice.
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Post by: gerry Larkin on March 26, 2016, 07:37:10 PM
very very nice painting indeed! 8)
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Post by: Glen on March 27, 2016, 01:13:45 PM
Well done!