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Title: HELPl lease ! British drummers
Post by: Joerg on May 08, 2015, 05:16:26 AM

according to
http://centjours.mont-saint-jean.com/uniformes_uniteBR.php?uniformes=21&nation=1

British drummers in 1815 still had "changed colours", i.e. coats in colour of rank-and-file collars.
(One exception is mentioned - No14).

Was that th efact or did the majority of drummer were rank-and-file Redcoats with wthite laces?

Any help is welcome.
Thanks!
Joerg

Title: Re: HELPl lease ! British drummers
Post by: Brian on May 08, 2015, 11:04:07 AM

These are the facing colours of the line infantry, the drummer wore White or Yellow with the facing colour on collar and cuffs till 1812 after which the Red was worn with white lace.   


White - 17th, 32nd, 43rd, 47th, 59th, 65th, 74th,
Pale Yellow - 9th, 10th, 12th, 20th, 26th, 30th, 46th, 57th, 67th, 82nd, 83rd, 84th, 91st,
Yellow - 13th, 15th, 16th, 28th, 29th, 34th, 37th, 38th, 44th, 75th, 77th, 80th, 85th, 86th, 88th, 93rd,
Deep Yellow - 6th, 25th, 72nd,
Yellow Green - 5th, 36th, 54th, 66th,
Light Green - 39th,
Blue Green - 11th, 19th, 24th, 45th, 49th, 51st, 55th, 63rd, 68th, 69th, 73rd, 79th, 87th, 94th
Pale Buff - 27th,
Buff - 3rd, 14th, 22nd, 31st, 48th, 52nd, 61st, 62nd, 71st, 78th, 81st, 96th
Deep Buff - 40th, 90th,
Orange - 35th,
Red - 33rd, 41st, 53rd, 76th,
Purple - 56th,
Blue - 1st, 2nd, 3rd Foot Guards, 1st, 2nd, 4th, 7th, 8th, 18th, 21st, 23rd, 42nd, 60th,
Black - 50th, 58th, 64th, 70th, 89th

Title: Re: HELPl lease ! British drummers
Post by: Ed Humphreys on May 08, 2015, 11:24:24 AM

The drummers wore reversed colours at least until 1812, with the coats in the facing colour, and the collars and cuffs in red. The exception was the regiments with red facings, who wore white coats with red facings. This was the theory up to 1812, but supply difficulties in the field meant this was not always possible. After 1812, there was a gradual change to red coats, but again those regiments close to their depot would have been the first to change. Some regiments would probably still have worn the old style in 1815, but it would be difficult to say which. The Guard regiments would have worn red coats with chevrons of white lace with a blue fleur-de-lys pattern.

Title: Re: HELPl lease ! British drummers
Post by: Joerg on May 08, 2015, 11:30:10 AM

Thanks, Gentlemen, for the quick and helpful response. :D

Title: Re: HELPl lease ! British drummers
Post by: Joerg on May 20, 2015, 04:08:28 PM

Me again:

Is there any clue, which regimental drummer had white or yellow collars and cuffs with the red coat?

Thanks
J.

Title: Re: HELPl lease ! British drummers
Post by: willie on May 21, 2015, 08:13:17 PM

Try getting your hands on British Napoleonic Uniforms  The First Complete Illustrated Guide to Uniforms, Facings and Lace By C.E.Franklin this is a out standing book :o  Willie