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Title: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Kulmbach on May 31, 2014, 06:21:00 PM
Douglas Bader´s Supermarin Spitfire MK II


Produced by "Glorious Empire"
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: marko on May 31, 2014, 07:35:13 PM
Really shows how nice a flat aircraft can be with first rate painting.  Love the detail in the canopy with the gunsite showing etc.  Nicely done.


mark  8)


Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Larry Lee on May 31, 2014, 10:23:59 PM
Really nice. I will resist the urge to post a Spitfire video  ;D
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Glen on June 01, 2014, 12:48:04 AM
Nicely done! The shaded and highlighted panel lines pop just enough to show the panels without making it look like there's a grid painted over it. X2 on the gunsight and other bits behind the canopy. The fuselage to tailplane aerial is a nice touch. Now add the aerial wire from the mast to the rudder post; and if you're feeling adventurous add the lead from the wire down to the fuselage just behind the mast. Also rethink the strut and wheel well cutout under the wing. The strut part should go to the strut and wheel bit looks a bit misshapen (that said, if it's free-hand, it's steadier than I could do it...)  ;)  I also think an undercarriage strut should be rendered inside the strut cover.


Again, nicely done!


Cheers,

Glen




Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: böckchen on June 01, 2014, 04:52:25 AM
A great painting with 3D effect.  :o :o :o
Like me very well, thank you for show. :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Brian on June 01, 2014, 06:09:45 AM
Great painting, just the ticket to go with Jan's 109,

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Are we to see the Ju 87 Stuka from you Jan?
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Kulmbach on June 01, 2014, 06:43:47 AM


Could be, Brian. I got one painted since more than a year back, but then I need to take a photo of it first. In the meanwhile here is another picture of Geschwaderkommodore Adolf Galland´s Messerschmitt 109 Bf E.
 
 Also one of Gruppenkommandeur Helmut Wick´s aircraft. Both from the "Battle of Britain" period.


Jan
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Brian on June 01, 2014, 09:59:33 AM
And just a reminder these great flats are available ;)

Forgot to say, these are big figures as the Spit is 160mm long and really well done.
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: alfsboy on June 02, 2014, 02:56:54 PM
brilliant work ,inspiring .
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Glen on June 03, 2014, 11:53:40 AM
Agreed! The 109s are great. Curious about the markings" all painted or a mix of paint/decals?


Glen
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Kulmbach on June 03, 2014, 06:29:53 PM
For your information Glen, everything is painted and there isn´t any guide lines engraved, which I am glad for.
I have a couple of more painted German aircrafts which I will show when I have become on friendly terms with my computer again.
Jan
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Glen on June 05, 2014, 11:14:07 AM
Jan it seems you have far steadier hands than I do  :o .


I would have to uses masking tape, stencils, or decals to get them to look that good.


I'd like to see the other aircraft when you get to them.


Cheers,


Glen
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: nmrocks on June 12, 2014, 09:10:50 AM
These are really great castings and the detail you add looks like a photo, great work! what is the size/scale?
Ray
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Glen on June 12, 2014, 11:57:30 PM
It was pointed out that the Spit was 160mm long. That's around 6.25". A 1/48 Spitfire I is around 7.25", so off the top of my head the flat is coming in somewhere in the low/mid 1/50s in terms of scale. I'd do the math, but it's late and I'm tired...
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Kulmbach on June 13, 2014, 08:38:51 AM
Scale or no scale ... referring to Jacques Vullinghs they are matching a 30mm figure.


Jan
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: nmrocks on June 13, 2014, 07:49:19 PM
Thanks Jan and Glenn, just what I need... to expand my flat interests!!!!!    :P
Ray
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Glen on June 15, 2014, 12:44:29 PM
Ah... that makes it closer to 1/72 versus 1/48. Say mid 1/60s scale. A good size for WW II fighters.


Glen
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Kulmbach on August 04, 2014, 04:42:54 PM
Finely I managed to post "Gruppenkommandeur" Helmut Wick´s aircraft!
Jan


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Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: marko on August 04, 2014, 05:25:43 PM
Very glad you persisted.  It is really a first class paint job, beautifully done.


mark  8)
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: willie on August 04, 2014, 09:24:33 PM
Very nice job  Willie. Was that painted in oils?
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Brian on August 05, 2014, 03:50:59 AM
Big thumbs up with this one as well ;) :)
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Glen on August 05, 2014, 12:01:32 PM
Nicely done; especially the dappled camouflage! The markings, cockpit details and glass depictions are top-notch, but might the front glass panes be a bit different in tone due to their changes in angle?


Probably a bit late, but I think there should be more shading and highlighting on the fuselage side to denote the sharply curving bottom transitioning to the gently curving side transitioning to sharply curving top. Think of an egg standing on its large end.


The prop shadow is a nice touch, but the 109E exhausts were nestled inside a fairing that shrouded the exhausts top and bottom. There should be a long shadow line under the fairing with perhaps the very tips of the exhausts creating another shadow beyond that.


Perhaps a highlight bump on the intake, the fuselage spine, wing tip, and the leading edges wing, tail-plane, and vertical fin/rudder is in order as well. Even matte finishes produce a highlight sheen on acute angle changes.


There's a few more, but I've probable pissed you off enough as it it is... ;)


Cheers,


Glen
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: willie on August 05, 2014, 12:10:43 PM
How did you do the markings and Mickey on the other plane Willie
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Kulmbach on August 06, 2014, 11:46:08 AM
Test
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: johnr on August 06, 2014, 12:08:49 PM
Another success Jan looks great.

John R
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Kulmbach on August 06, 2014, 12:10:11 PM
Another test ... just  to see what happens. 
Now when I know that the picture is on show I will fill in the text.

Well Brian ... here is your Junker 87B "STUKA".

It´s  from "Stab III./ST.G Immelmann."  Then flewn by Major Hans Rudel at the Russian front 1943.

Yes Glen, as you well know,  ... there are always things that could be better done. I have taken your comments to my hart for the future. But these aircrafts are painted some time ago.

Willie ... everything is painted in oil, nothing is glued on. It takes a little more time and  patience to paint them,  that´s all.


Jan






 
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Kulmbach on August 06, 2014, 12:21:01 PM
Just to try to make a balance I will also like to show Douglas Bader´s Supermarin Spitfire MK II.
Jan
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Brian on August 06, 2014, 01:00:46 PM
I'll have to get around to painting my Stuka looks well good for such a clumsy looking machine, and remember these flat aircraft are still available if you want to have a go  ;)   
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Kulmbach on August 06, 2014, 02:49:03 PM
Test 1
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Nicholas Ball on August 06, 2014, 03:18:03 PM
the subtle shading is excellent. very very nice
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Kulmbach on August 06, 2014, 03:27:18 PM
I  have problem with "Fatal Error" now and then when I try to post a picture. I wrote a rather long text and added two pictures. Nothing showed upp. Then I sent, as a test, one picture and this one showed up. Then I tried with the second picture but had a page with "Fatal Error". It´s a sad situation. Has it to do with my computer or with the Server?

So, what I will do is to try to recapitulate what I wrote:

"I realized that I had already showed my "Douglas Bader Spitfire". Now I had even taken a new picture, I blame it on old age. As I substitute I now will show two more German Messerschitt 109 aircrafts, one "Friedrich" version and one "Gustav" version. Both conversions, done by my, from the original "Emil" version produced by Jacques Vulligns of Glorious Empires."

Bf 109F-4 Trop "Yellow" Flewn by Hauptmann Hans Joachim Marseille,"The Star of Africa" Staffelkapitän 3/JG 27 Egypt, September 1942.

(The other Plane, the "Gustav" version, I will add text to when I manage to get behind the "Fatal Error" and add the picture.)[

Jan

Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: marko on August 06, 2014, 03:34:18 PM
Jan,


I suspect your issue with pictures is due to their size - they are all 3+ mb.  Our software can only handle an upload of 6 mb at a time meaning two pictures would be over that limit and it will fail if you upload them at the same time.  (You can edit an entry and load pictures one at a time to get around the issue.)


Jerry Mortimore our BFFS Journal editor has had a similar issue with one picture not working until I saved it to a different format as well so that is another option, in his case it was again a very large file.


You might try saving your pictures with a slightly lesser resolution and you will have better luck.


As far as your fighter planes - truly stunning work, I congratulate you.


mark  8)
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Kulmbach on August 07, 2014, 05:20:31 AM
Hi Mark,

Yes, I thought so, it had something to do with their sizes.
Marseille´F- version is 3.75 MB and I got it posted. But Hartmann´s G-version is less than that, "only" 3.40Mg and this one I fail to get through. I have chosen the highest resulotion in my pictures as I like details to show up nicely. Still even now some smaller details are lost. If I choose a lower lewel I am afraid it will be even more blurred.

I will, now and then, try to post my G- version, as I have done with the other aircrafts and managed.


Jan
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Kulmbach on August 07, 2014, 05:58:00 AM
Mark,


I took a second look on the "Fatal Error" and noticed that the Allowed Memory size is 94371840 Bytes.
My picture is less than half of that, 3569499 Bytes and is not passing through.


Jan
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: marko on August 07, 2014, 11:23:06 AM
As I said every once in a while we have an issue with a specific picture.  I sent you my email address via a message.  Send me the pictures in your preferred size and I will upload them the old fashioned way via FTP.

mark 
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Glen on August 07, 2014, 12:10:34 PM
Jan, that Spitfire is magnificent! I took the liberty of downloading your post pic and found that it was 300dpi, over 16 inches wide, and a bit over 46mb!


I cropped out the extraneous upper and lower section as well as bit on the ends, reduced the resolution to 96dpi, sized the pic to 12 inches wide, and came up with a total size of 1.58mb.


This is how the BFFS site translates it:



Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Kulmbach on August 09, 2014, 05:31:10 AM
Hi Mark,


Appreciate you offer to reach out a helping hand, but did you get the picture I sent?


Jan


Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: marko on August 09, 2014, 04:31:48 PM
Jan,


Not sure what the issue was other than I had to play with the image a bit to upload it as well.


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Bf 109-G "White 1" flown by Hauptmann Erich Hartmann, Staffelkapitän 4/JG 52, Hungary 1944.

via Jan
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: willie on August 09, 2014, 10:25:40 PM
Just finished up with IPMS Convention in Hampton VA. It was IPMS USA 50th Anniversary .Lots and lots of models there ,it was the Largest Hobby Shop in VA ;D  I found the vender and I was wondering it we could use this on are planes and tank flats.  They are called Archer fine Transfers and I got a free sample and I think they are out standing. Cast Resin on clear decal film apply like decals under paint. They had WW-1 stitching ,Weld Beads , Panel Lines . Also so JTT Miniature Trees and Landscaping Products. Now I have a question can we use this stuff on are figures and inter them in shows. Willie
Title: Re: WW II Aircrafts
Post by: Kulmbach on August 10, 2014, 06:14:24 AM
Thanks´ Mark for taken time to trix with my latest aircraft picture. Now I will rest my case although a got a few more painted planes.


Jan