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Title: Burgundy II
Post by: Christoph on December 25, 2023, 12:03:07 PM

Hello,
I'm still working on my burgundy project. So I open a new topic for the next pictures.


I started to paint figures for the ordonnance compagnies, which made up the core of the army of Charles the bold.
The first unit I'm going to show is the second compagnie. Recruited in Flandres and led by their captain Jean de Dampmartin.


Here Dampmartin is shown with his personal banner and his staff.


(http://www.intflatfigures.org/BFFS/gallery/21/2726-261223112144.jpeg)

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: snagy on December 25, 2023, 11:19:44 PM

Nice work!
I wonder what the third rider (from the left) holds in his hand?
Is it a bugle?
Merry Christmas!!!
Sandor

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christoph on December 26, 2023, 04:52:35 AM

Hello Sandor,
Yes, it is a bugle/trompete.
Merry Christmas.
Christoph

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: John Alberts on December 26, 2023, 03:19:29 PM

Very consistent quality of paint work!  Nice

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christian on December 26, 2023, 04:12:25 PM

Well done, Christoph!


BG Christian

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christoph on January 14, 2024, 12:22:29 PM

Hello,
here some more mounted members of the second ordonnance compagnie including the compagnie's standart.


(http://www.intflatfigures.org/BFFS/gallery/21/2726-140124121821.jpeg)

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: snagy on January 15, 2024, 12:08:34 AM

Very nice work, Christoph!
Just yesterday it came to my mind, that no new figures were posted by you in the last time!
So here is (moreover: are  ;D ) the answer (freshly painted figures)!!!
Slowly I also run out my crusader-figures waiting for painting and after them I shall return to my Burgundian figures, too.
At present I am working on the mounted figure of Robert de Breteuil and there are only two dismounted ones left: Gottfried and Peter of Amiens.
Best regards-
Sandor

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christoph on February 03, 2024, 03:35:15 AM

Here is the next one, more mounted knights and coustilliers of the second ordonnance compagnie.
Christoph



(http://www.intflatfigures.org/BFFS/gallery/21/2726-030224033236.jpeg)

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: snagy on February 03, 2024, 05:44:59 AM

Overall the usual high-standard work.
I particularly like the paintwork of the banner and the caparison in the middle.
I am also working on a Burgundian horseman: the KK-034 "Burgunder Bannentraeger, galoppierend":
(http://www.intflatfigures.org/BFFS/gallery/21/2574-030224054303.jpeg)
I shall come back with the result in a few days!
Nice weekend!
Sandor

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Hannibal on February 03, 2024, 01:02:25 PM

You are mastering these characters soi well now!!
Impressed too by the painting of the banners, a job delicat and very well done.

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christian on February 03, 2024, 01:32:25 PM

Wonderful work, Christoph!!


BG Christian

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: John Alberts on February 03, 2024, 02:41:56 PM

Agree with all the comments, love the blue coloring.

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christoph on February 04, 2024, 02:08:09 AM

Thanks.
Here is a link about someone who is painting burgundy standarts in a bit bigger style:


https://m.facebook.com/anteferit (https://m.facebook.com/anteferit)

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Hannibal on February 04, 2024, 09:46:39 AM

Yes, fantastic, but no way to resize to 30mm !!!!

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christoph on February 17, 2024, 04:40:55 PM

Hello,
Here is the next one.
The first part of the mounted archers of the second ordonnance compagnie.
Normally there would be 3 archers to one homme d'armes.  For my project I redroduce the numder to 2 archers to one homme d'armes. But I think thete are still enough of them.
Christoph


(http://www.intflatfigures.org/BFFS/gallery/21/2726-170224163415.jpeg)

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: snagy on February 18, 2024, 01:58:01 AM

Very nice gang!
I was tinking, whether on your new pictures all the figures are freshly painted, or your group earlier painted figures to the new ones?
If all the fiures are freshly painted your make an enormous continuous painting work!
To paint a mounted figure in oils it takes me 3-4 days, working about 3 hours on the figure, daily.
The footsoldier takes about the half of this time.
Back to the structure of the troops: just recently got to my hands an outstanding work about the middle-age warfare: "Historische Waffen und Rüstungen" of Liliane and Fred Funcken. I have the German language issue, however it is available in English and French too. It is a beautifully and richly illustrated with color pictures/drawings. I think it is  a well known work for most of you.
On page 90-92 the book describes detailed way the basic unit of the army of the 13-15 century: it is the "Lance". That says that the ratio of a man-at arms to his servants is usually 1 to 7. The seven service men is: a page, a coutiller, three mounter archer and 2-3 foots.
So when one says that a troop consists of 500 lances, that means a force of 500 + 3.500/4.000 armed men.
Have a nice day!!!
Sandor

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christoph on February 18, 2024, 02:18:03 AM

Hello Sandor,
All these figures are painted freshly for that. I have painted some of these figures before and showed in an other picture.


There are enough different figures for homme d'armes but only a few for coustilliers and mounted archers. So I have to use the same four figures for that group what makes painting a bit boring.


I'm using acryl coloures, so I can paint a mounted figures in about 2 to 3 hours.


I knew the Funcken book of course. It's a good basic book but you have to be careful because a lot of the paintings in that book are based on 19th century drawings. My main scoure for the burgundian army are the books of Gerry Embleton und Ulrich Lehnart.


Christoph

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: merlino on February 18, 2024, 04:08:50 AM

very very beautiful !  ;)

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: snagy on February 18, 2024, 10:15:33 AM

Thank you for the feedback, Christoph!
I admire your painted figures!
I think I have to purchase the works of Gerry Embleton und Ulrich Lehnart  as well in order to have more sources on the topic.
May I ask you to specify the title of their works, that you consider authentic, please? (you know the Burgundian wars period I am interested most)
I am looking forward to see your next meticulously accomplished works!
Best regards-
Sandor

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: John Alberts on February 18, 2024, 12:19:52 PM

Very nice!  Is that Funcken book a stand alone or part of the uniform series?  Seems the former.

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: snagy on February 18, 2024, 12:37:29 PM

Hi John.
they have several books, have a look on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Books-liliane-Fred-Funcken/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3Aliliane+and+Fred+Funcken+Funcken (https://www.amazon.com/Books-liliane-Fred-Funcken/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3Aliliane+and+Fred+Funcken+Funcken)
Sandor

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: John Alberts on February 18, 2024, 09:30:25 PM

Many thanks, I have the Arms and Uniforms series and have not thought to look for other Funcken publications.

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christoph on February 19, 2024, 06:38:56 AM

Good books on that topic are (in my opinion):


https://www.amazon.de/Kleidung-Waffen-Sp%C3%A4tgotik-III-1420-1480/dp/3935616171/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?crid=386YR6QTRFB84&keywords=ulrich+lehnart&qid=1708342382&sprefix=ulrich+leh%2Caps%2C262&sr=8-1-fkmr0




https://www.amazon.de/S%C3%B6ldnerleben-im-Mittelalter-Gerry-Embleton/dp/3613026783/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=379OE40KJV7I6&keywords=gerry+embleton&qid=1708342471&sprefix=gerry+embleton%2Caps%2C257&sr=8-3


https://www.amazon.de/Ritter-S%C3%B6ldner-Mittelalter-Kleidung-Bewaffnung/dp/3932077067/ref=sr_1_5?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=379OE40KJV7I6&keywords=gerry+embleton&qid=1708342471&sprefix=gerry+embleton%2Caps%2C257&sr=8-5


I give you the links of Amazon Germany for the german edition. The books of Gerry Embleton may be available in English as well but with different title etc.

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: snagy on February 19, 2024, 07:07:32 AM

Thank you, Christoph!
B.r.-

Sandor

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christoph on March 03, 2024, 04:18:52 PM

Hello,
Here is the rest of the mounted archers of the second ordonnance compagnie, including the archers banner.
Christoph
 

(http://www.intflatfigures.org/BFFS/gallery/21/2726-030324161325.jpeg)

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: snagy on March 03, 2024, 11:42:24 PM

They are nice as usual!!!
Thank you for showing!
Sandor
 ;D

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: John Alberts on March 04, 2024, 03:14:44 PM

I see what you mean by your previous statement that 2 archers were enough per man at arms when it was written as 3.  Very good painting

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christoph on March 15, 2024, 09:46:48 AM

Thanks
Here is the next,  a first group of pikemen from the second burgundy ordonnance compagnie.


(http://www.intflatfigures.org/BFFS/gallery/21/2726-150324094406.jpeg)

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: snagy on March 15, 2024, 01:03:53 PM

Hi Christoph, at least some foots were also coming!!!
Seems the Burgundians run out of horses!!!?? ;D
Nice work!!!
Sandor

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: John Alberts on March 16, 2024, 02:36:53 PM

A little variety in this well painted set, really like the hatless man at arms.

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christian on March 17, 2024, 02:51:48 PM

Wonderful!


BG Christian

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christoph on March 28, 2024, 07:32:16 PM

Thank you.
Don't worry Sandor, there are still enough horses.
Today more pikes lead by there captain.
(http://www.intflatfigures.org/BFFS/gallery/21/2726-280324192542.jpeg)

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: snagy on March 29, 2024, 02:17:23 AM

Nice work!
Happy Easter!!
 ;)
Sandor

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: merlino on March 29, 2024, 05:50:15 AM

other great work!  Happy Easter!  ;)

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: John Alberts on March 29, 2024, 02:04:22 PM

Have the two sides been represented equally?

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christoph on April 12, 2024, 04:23:06 PM

Hello,
Thank you for your comments.
And yes John,  both sides are painted.


Next is a group of hand gunners.


Christoph

(http://www.intflatfigures.org/BFFS/gallery/21/2726-130424060901.jpeg)

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: snagy on April 13, 2024, 02:44:12 AM

Nice work!
Next time may we get a bit larger picture to see the details better, please!?
Thank you!
Sandor

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christoph on April 13, 2024, 06:16:34 AM

Sorry Sandor,  something with the photo went wrong, should be better now. I uploaded it directly from my phone and sometimes the pictures are a bit different there as you will see it on the PC.

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: snagy on April 13, 2024, 09:14:41 AM

Thank you Christoph - it is much better now!
Nice figures!
Sandor

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: John Alberts on April 13, 2024, 01:08:19 PM

All are great, but the musicians stand out to me, the flute player is excellent,

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christoph on April 26, 2024, 04:42:09 PM

Here is the next one, more pikes.


(http://www.intflatfigures.org/BFFS/gallery/21/2726-260424163931.jpeg)

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: snagy on April 27, 2024, 02:18:54 AM

Figures are the usual high qualit works.
But the flag is outstanding!!! Very nice - TOP!
I like as  even the wrinkles were finely depicted - further the embroidery patterns.
Bravo!
Sandor

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Hannibal on April 27, 2024, 03:59:53 AM

.... and always these remarquable standards and flags !!!!!


*****

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: John Alberts on April 27, 2024, 11:24:01 AM

Am very impressed with the discipline to maintain such high standards on each piece, remarkable workmanship.

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Brian on April 28, 2024, 04:04:37 AM

These are great figures as always,  well done   ;)

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christoph on May 09, 2024, 12:04:44 PM

Hello,
I started writting articles about the burgundy figures I'm painting.  These articles are going to be published in the VFZ magazine.  The first article can be found in the January / Februar Edition with more to follow.
If you are interested you can get the magazine at the VFZ table at Kulmbach or order it via the VFZ homepage.
http://www.vfz-ev.de/verein.php
Christoph





(http://www.intflatfigures.org/BFFS/gallery/21/2726-090524115459.jpeg)

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: Christoph on May 11, 2024, 03:16:04 PM

Hello,
Here is the next. Some more pikemen and together with a colour of the 9th burgundy ordonnance compagnie.


(http://www.intflatfigures.org/BFFS/gallery/21/2726-110524151246.jpeg)

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: John Alberts on May 11, 2024, 03:45:27 PM

Good to know about the publication, so much work!

Title: Re: Burgundy II
Post by: snagy on May 12, 2024, 12:35:50 AM

I love the flag!!!
And the usual nice figures!
Well done!
Sandor