International Flat Figure Society - British Flat Figure Society
Flat Figures Painters Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: Brian on December 17, 2014, 05:39:39 AM
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Next year as you know is 2 hundred years since the battle, June 18th 1815 was the time and Belgium the country.
Napoleon nearly had it sown up but our mates the Prussians saved the day for the old Duke.
So is there a figure your going to paint to show at your club and shows? if your undecided might I suggest "Friends 1815" there you go! you know I was out to sell you something :D ;)
The figure is of British and Prussian line infantry men after the battle and is the BFFS 25th anniversary figure that was commissioned by the members of the society, 54mm, one side. If there's one figure your going to paint and show how about this one? lets try and get the figure at all the shows and club meets
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There's going to be loads of French figures out there how about trying to balance things up!! ;) we did win after all :o ;D ;D ;)
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Excellent Figure, highly recommended by the Hon.Secretary ;) ;D ;D
I recon Eric Talmant should order 2 !!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Is this to be the 2015 Painting Project then? Someone had mentioned doing Napoleonic/Waterloo pieces because the 200th Anniversary.
Glen
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No Glen not a project figure, just think that the old Brits and Prussians get left behind in the figure stakes. The French uniform is not that great!! when you take out the Hussars which are Hungarian the guard lancers are Polish or Dutch so what you left with blue and white !!!
The Brits are much more stylish with red, blue and green, no need for the fancy gold's on their general's :D
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The French uniforms are the best. Long live Napoleon. We would all be in blue with golden eagles if Napoleon was not let down by Ney and others at Waterloo. The Prussians in their boring Black would not have saved the day.The only reason they British wore red was to hide the blood to stope the rest of the army from running away.So for Waterloo 200 we should be painting the very colorful French uniforms. Not the boring red. Vivi Napoleon. You only have to look at Wellington's unifoum against Napoleon. Boring ;)
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You only have to look at Picton he did not know how to dress. Top hat and tails in boring black. No since of dress. Napoleon staff were all well dressed and smart.
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Have I ever mentioned I don't like Napoleonic???? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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But Chris their not French uniforms :o their everybody else's, the French have blue that is so dark it could be called black
But anyway this just point out what I was saying, we're going to be flooded with French army figures and if you want a figure that stands out I would go for the British and it's allies, and that where "Friends 1815" comes in again ;) be different don't be part of the pack that dose another French figure.
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Well still got a few left but can always cast more, price I hear you say!! less then the price of two pints £8.50 ;)
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OK lets move from the British for a moment, if you where doing a figure from the battle what will it be?
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I have started the flat of Hougoumont assault, engraved by Daniel Lepeltier.
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/17/41/09/92/dsc00010.jpg)..
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Good Lord Michel, that's a piece and a half, you don't tread around the Roses lightly do you!! hahaha
I look forward to seeing you progress with this.
Will it be finished for Ransart???? hahahaha
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Helas No Nicholas... for Montrouge early April. It was a gift work for a French friend... 13 figures !!!! but Ransart requires all my energy for the time being..
Current status...(http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/17/41/09/92/dsc00711.jpg) (http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/17/41/09/92/dsc00711.jpg) (central pannel)
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looking good Michel, the sense depth is spot on.
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hi lads, i ll follow this thread, i hope it s ok....my work in progress...sorry for photo qual, oil are still too shiny so I did it under shadow.... :)
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i forgot to ask for help about british soldiers trousers.....i found paintings and in some are grey, white, also black(main one) i tought that the black trousers were used later in crimean war, or not?
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That's coming along nicely Mr.F ;)
British trousers were mainly grey or white. Dark green for the Rifle Brigades. I like what you have done so far
I look forward to seeing it progress
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thank you, i hope i ll finish it fine :)
better pic to see the progress.....i guess i need to repaint upper bricks on the right side one tone lighter and blend more white to officier.....still a lot to do :)
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maybe just the top 3 layers of bricks, but don't forget the door is shading the rest of the wall.
coming along nicely.
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Waiting for the next pictures !
Eric
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Hi everybody,
the flag engraved is 1804 model. Is it a mistake or creators have information on some regiments that had early flag models during 1815 campaign?
oleg
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bricks - fixed, just waiting for soft dry brush
i didnt check that deep. i checked colors only in osprey :-\
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A complicated piece to be sure; lots of overlapping shadows. If I may ask, where is the intended light direction coming from?
Glen
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i didnt check that deep. i checked colors only in osprey :-\
Then please look in Ospreys for 1815 flag models as well as British Waterloo uniform, the overalls were grey. Brian Fosten made very useful and detailed drawings for these books. It will be a pity to see your great painting job not historically correct.
Oleg
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yes, I have painted the overalls grey, but I prefer to keep more contrast so I added as 2nd light pure white. At the moment the contrast is maybe not very clear regarding shine of oils oposite the light.
ill repaint the flag in the end, I see the difference in patern.
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in while work on continue
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1/3 nearly done......just i do not know why pics from phone started turned right
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working hard...anyway, not that easy to paint 1815 patern ;)
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looking very very good. I'm following this with interest.
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As am I. I can smell the smoke...
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2/3 almost done..... :) still much to do, but slowly step by step to the final.
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Coming good :) :)
Eric
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Waouwwww!! I have to go further with mine, but this one looks pretty nice and neat !!!
Congratulations..............
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looking very good :)
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thanks lads :)
almost all done.....next pic will go to gallery? :)
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Very impressive
I just think it lacks shadows on the ground under the men
Eric
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thanks eric, i have added more shadows under the men....and finished last details.
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I think it is better but not enough
For instance you should darken the ground under the french
Also look at the legs of the english pushing on the left
If the light comes from the right there should be some rather neat shadows under each leg
Just try it when your paint is well dry; if you are not satisfied you just brush it off
Eric
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Very well painted!! you did good there Jozef, well good ;D ;)
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That's worked out very well, as Eric said, maybe a few shadows, but even so nicely done ;)
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thank you brian ;)
eric, nicholas: thank you for advice, I will wait a while till the ground will be more dry and I will add more shadows directly under the men and lightly more around.
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It's coming along nicely, but I would agree with Eric; more shading is needed especially on the wall and gates behind the soldiers. The representation of the brick and wood is excellent, but there are different angles to all of them. Shouldn't the highlighting and shading be a bit different as well?
Press on!
Glen
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so i added some more shadows and captured the flat under different position to light from bulp :) ......
glen: bricks ;D that costed my a lot of nerves i have painted almost each one of them separately....i added some shadows also behind the soldiers
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pic below :)
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Much better !
Eric
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Ditto! All it needs now is the smell of burnt gunpowder. ;)
Glen
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another waterloo tribute in progress :)
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act. progress :)
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finally both with background :)
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Nicely done but lacking some contrast
You should accentuate the shadows
But probably the picture does not help the appreciation
Eric
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Nicely done, but I agree with Eric in that the shadows need more contrast. Part of that is because it's difficult to discern the specific light direction. For the most part it seems to be washing down from above and front but certain areas that should be in shadow are not (the upper under the hat brims and the area under the left figure arm for example). Other parts - cannonball, left figure leg wrap, and right figure shako - indicate above left front; while the drumhead and bare knee seem to indicate above right front. Still trying to get this right myself, so I tend to look for it...
Cheers,
Glen
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thanks for tips, lads :)
i was wondering how deep shadows/ better to say the contrast/ should be?
this is my first two projects ever with flatd, i tried 4 round figures before just to touch oils & acrylic paints :) ....in the next project i will be more softer with highlights & shadows.....
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Just try to think of this: "Light comes from the shadow"
Eric