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Title: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: Daniel CANET on February 11, 2016, 07:50:35 AM

Another elephant !!! This piece engraved by LECKE is published by Berliner Zinnfiguren; engraving and casting quality are limiting préparation minimum.
To change the grey elephants I chose to make a brown skin. My palette consists of:
* brown red = burnt sienna + march black +  march orange tip
* brown yellow =  brown red + sienna natural + march yellow
* brown grey =  brown yellow + grey
* grey = march black  + titanium white
* Deep shadows = Cassel earth + neutral tint

Each color is then extended by spot stains are melted together[size=78%][attachimg=1][/size]
Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: Nicholas Ball on February 11, 2016, 09:37:12 AM
Looking Very Very Gooood Daniel.

I've got the Tiger hunt to do ( 6 elephants ) so I'm interested to see how you do these. Not that I copy, I just borrow the design  hahaha
Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: Hannibal on February 11, 2016, 09:48:21 AM
Fantastic painting as started ...
I was just preparing yesterday an elephant bought two weeks ago from a set of eleven from an heritage, with the missing soldiers and tower, so for my first, it will just be the Indian elephant and its mahout, to learn how to paint the skin tones of the animal ... Fixtures other than the head cover were removed.
This one is a Menz  'E4'
(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/19/31/59/25/menz_210.jpg) (http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/19/31/59/25/menz_210.jpg)
But painting will start after Lugdunum...
 
Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: marko on February 11, 2016, 10:25:00 AM
Happily having a few Gottstein elephants in the stash this is very interesting for me as well!  Lovely start on this.


Figure is interesting as well.  Vague memory tells me there was an African elephant that was somewhat smaller than the Indian elephant that the Romans hunted to extinction along with Tigers and some other assorted wildlife in Northern Africa.


Do paint on!


mark  8)




Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: willie on February 11, 2016, 10:37:38 AM
I like the color. After taking care of them for some years  :o I can say they range in various colors.  Look at wild and domestic ones, they range in color and where they live.  I would give them a bath and the first thing they would do was roll in the dirt and mud  ??? When they get old they get age spots.  Hannibal  what type of elephants are they ::)  Willie
Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: Hannibal on February 11, 2016, 11:22:56 AM
Mine is definitely Asian, Indian, small ears, head shape typical, back flat, instead of a curvature, an several other differences.
(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/19/31/59/25/africa10.jpg)
Colour can indeed vary from grey to brown as they indeed also like to cover their skin with dried mud, probably to keep insects away.  I've choosen my colour from several pics for this first one, grey, but with brown spots (surely after his bath, he! he!!!), but not so brown as Daniel below ..
michel
 
 
Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: Daniel CANET on February 11, 2016, 12:29:22 PM

thank you all
Willie, I'm glad you like it color
Paint a pet is always a difficult adventure





Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: Daniel CANET on February 13, 2016, 01:58:54 AM

This is a very interesting site


http://www.maquetland.com/article-1884-elephants-de-guerre-les-panzers-de-l-antiquite (http://www.maquetland.com/article-1884-elephants-de-guerre-les-panzers-de-l-antiquite)
Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: Hannibal on February 13, 2016, 03:21:27 AM
Excellent reference, and very well documented... Thanks Daniel !!
Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: Daniel CANET on February 15, 2016, 02:16:02 AM
another little work


Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: errant49 on February 15, 2016, 03:24:08 AM
Yes !
This "brown-green" is much better
Nice work indeed
Eric
Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: Hannibal on February 15, 2016, 10:36:38 AM
Splendid painting, but I am not fan of the greenish tone ... ( I must visit a zoo to validate my correct knowledge of elephants ...).  But anyway, the artist may give his own interpretation.
I read also that several species of elephants living during the ancients times have totally been decimated and are no longer available today....
Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: Glen on February 17, 2016, 11:30:59 AM
The painting is excellent, but I do think the green cast is a put off-putting. Although my knowledge of elephant color schemes is limited, I don't recall seeing anything that was't a variation of gray - cool to warm and medium to dark - but always gray. What variations I've seen from gray were the result of external coatings - dust and dirt - ranging from tan to reddish brown.


Still excellent painting, tho'.


Glen
Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: Hannibal on February 17, 2016, 07:23:51 PM
British had also a pink panther !
 
Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: Daniel CANET on February 18, 2016, 12:40:16 PM
it is finished
Glen, it is not so green but ocre, brown and grey; photos are not very good



Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: Nicholas Ball on February 18, 2016, 12:52:56 PM
Very nice Daniel.

The gold is excellently done.

Colour is not that bad. This inspires me to get my elephants back out. :)
Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: marko on February 18, 2016, 03:42:16 PM
Agreed this is quite nice.  Your figures all have a bit of "inner light" which I am envious of as well.  I have not been able to achieve that pop when I want it yet.


mark  8)
Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: Hannibal on February 18, 2016, 04:24:49 PM
Ah Yeahh, splendid tone of the elephant this time !!! Outstanding as Daniel can do ... Hping to see soon or latest at Montrouge....
Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: Glen on February 19, 2016, 10:38:06 AM
Much better! The first pic look like he was covered in algae - maybe too much time in the pond.  ;)


Are you using a camera and lights or a scanner for the images?


Glen
Title: Re: carthaginian war elephant - 30mm
Post by: Brian on February 21, 2016, 05:14:09 AM
As said Outstanding !!!  the man is well pleased (-;