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Title: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on March 30, 2015, 11:19:41 AM: Hallo friends of flats,

I asked in Kulmbach/Plassenburg for flats for a Mignot-Painting-Project 2015.

We get a limited casting for a project :D :D :D

What figures we get will be a surprise.

To save postage we´ll distribute the flats on the BFFS stand at the "Zinnfigurenbörse 2015"; the rest I´ll send with post.

The figures will be presented in a frame for the BFFS stand like 2013.

Who wants to take part of the Mignot-Painting-Project-2015 ???

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: johnr on March 30, 2015, 11:36:42 AM: Hi Michael,
I will take part.
Thanks.

John
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on March 30, 2015, 12:39:23 PM: Great !
Thank you Michael for the idea
I will be in
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Grimm on March 30, 2015, 01:04:36 PM: I may be interested. I will decide when we see each other in Kulmbach.

Bernt
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Charles on March 30, 2015, 02:36:55 PM: I love a Mignot. This is a good plan, count me in.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Erich on March 30, 2015, 02:45:17 PM: me too, please
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Post by: marko on March 30, 2015, 09:00:10 PM: Also count me in, another, Mignot fan.

mark 8)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Chris Seeley on March 30, 2015, 11:30:23 PM: That's a big yes from me.
Chris
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on March 30, 2015, 11:38:08 PM: I'll do one as well!

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: snagy on March 31, 2015, 01:16:34 AM: I should like to participate in the project also.
Unfotunately I can not take it personally - so count me to the "to-be-posted" group. (PayPal)

Thank you in advance.
sandor
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roland Simon on March 31, 2015, 01:25:54 AM: That sounds pretty good. I'll be in......
Cheers
Roland
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on March 31, 2015, 01:54:32 AM: Count me in please.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: mumobenny on March 31, 2015, 02:55:50 AM: Count me also please
Mauro
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on March 31, 2015, 04:07:04 AM: To decide whether I wou;d participate or not, I am not sure to grasp the timing & workload of this project= how many flats ae involved by each for painting; when available and by when to be completed, because I am leaving mid-May to Turkey until early August to visit Kulmbach, then back to Turkey till December. I can't get them end of May till Early August if availabe by then...
Thanks
Michel
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on March 31, 2015, 06:11:59 AM: Hallo friends of Mignot flats,

I´ll get the figures on Saturday 8.8.2015 in the morning. So we´ll meet at the BFFS stand at 13.00 o´clock on Saturday.

Everybody is welcome members and associates; I only see 3 associates on the list and I think it´s not a problem for this project.

Every member and associate get´s only one figure and he has to send them back for the display.

I think it tooks one year until all figures are back.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Brian on March 31, 2015, 10:28:47 AM: Add me to the list ;)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on March 31, 2015, 03:46:22 PM: Add me to the list, Michael, I will be in Kulmbach till Saturday 15:00 to drive back to Belgium, so OK for me !!
Michel
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on April 16, 2015, 07:56:55 AM: Hello friends of flats,

today the frame and the passpartout for the painting project arrived.
It´s a black MDF-frame 40 x 30 x 4 cm and a white passpartout with a cutting 19,5 x 29,5 x 1,3 mm. There are 28 mm
between background and glass, so the foot board of the figures must not be damaged.
On the background I´ll double up a second black 5 mm background with velcrol/loop tape. So it´s easy to remove the second
background with the figures I´ll mount.

On the passpartout I´ll print the lettering "British Flat Figure Society" and the BFFS sign on the left and the right.
Below I´ll print the lettering "www.intflatfigures.org". I´ll use the font and color of our homepage.

On the black 5 mm background I´ll write on the top "BFFS Painting Project 2015" and below "Mignot figures produced by
Plassenburg/Kulmbach" in grey letters.

Under the mounted figures I´ll write your real name and your country. If you´ll want´s to be anonymous, I could use your
nickname you use in the forum. Please let me know.
If you´ll get the figures posted in August please let me know your adress with your real name.

I´ll show the frame in Kulmbach on the BFFS-stand where you can get your figure on Saturday 13 o´clock.

Any additional ideas are welcome.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on April 16, 2015, 08:18:06 AM: Replied by MP
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on April 16, 2015, 04:15:45 PM: Standing by! I love surprises...

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on June 23, 2015, 08:50:59 AM: Hello friends of flats,

I used the bad weather today and finished the passpartout for the Mignot painting project 2015.

Additional every painter will get a small air cushion envelope with an adress lable to send them back.

If you want to be anonymous you can get your figure in Kulmbach and send them back without sender.

See you at Saturday 8.8.2015 at 13 o´clock on the BFFS-stand at Kulmbach.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on June 23, 2015, 12:06:38 PM: Good work Michael
Thanks a lot
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on June 23, 2015, 01:19:35 PM: I will come !!
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Simon H on June 24, 2015, 06:38:11 AM: Happy to take part. Not at Kulmbach though (unfortunately)
Simon
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on June 24, 2015, 08:01:57 AM: Hello friends of flats,

the casting for our painting project has happened and now the flats are waiting for colors ...

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Brian on June 24, 2015, 09:16:10 AM: Well Michael, this is coming together well good, big pat on the back for that man ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on June 24, 2015, 09:59:10 AM: Still standing by...

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on August 09, 2015, 03:53:06 AM: Hello friends of flats,

first I must say thank you for the big and friendly help to distribute the well casted Mignot figures from the
orginal moulds (no silicon) for our painting project yesterday in the heat of Kulmbach.
I think the figures from the portrait series are suitable for beginners and experienced painters.
With the envelopes everybody had the same chance to get a figure.
There are color pictures in the Vullinghs/Krannich Mignot book and in the internet like on the side of
Alexander Baden.
The AFCFEF edits a 54 mm Foch and there is is a picture of a painted Foch figure on their homepage.
Look at the pictures of Fourquet.
There are only a few figures left we must send per post; Nick in the United Kingdom.
When you start painting, make some SBS-pictures.
I think it´s interesting to look at the different ways every painter uses. We never stop learning.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on August 10, 2015, 08:48:18 AM: !!! choosing one envelope at Kulmbach .....

I got the figure of Charles X of France, Count of Artois going to Notre Dame of Paris on his white horse on 24th of September 1824 !
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on August 10, 2015, 12:02:36 PM: Hello friends of flats,

here the picture from the orginal Mignot catalog with our:

1. Vercingetorix
2. Caesar
3. Sobieski
4. Charles VII.
5. Richelieu
6. Charles X.
7. Foch

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on August 10, 2015, 12:23:27 PM: Hi all
A great thank to Michael who got this idea of the Mignot Project
It was a real nice moment when members came to pick their envelopp and discover the figure they now have to paint
Start working now and don't forget to send back your painted figure to Michael for the display
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on August 10, 2015, 01:36:50 PM: Aille ... my historical period of interest ends at the first empire ...., even just prior to the French Revolution due to difficult battles on uniformology with Napoléon .... but it is a nice challenge!!!
I take it !!
As I escape to Turkey early september, I'll finish it for December or January .... (planning is full).

Michael, let me dream on the remaining pièces still without owner till now!
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on August 11, 2015, 04:39:47 AM: Hello friends of flats,

the era after Napoleon I. is interesting, too. You have an ´evolution of adornments´ at the officier uniforms.

It starts with unadorned uniforms in the French revolution and ends in more ornamentation than blue uniforms
in the end of this development.

4 envelopes are left in my box. If I´ve forgot somebody or if somebody want´s to paint one who have no
figure, please contact me. Marko, Snagy, Erich and Glen figures will be posted today.
Brian, Roger and Charles figures are distributed by Nick when he´s back from Kulmbach.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Brian on August 11, 2015, 05:35:25 AM: ;)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on August 11, 2015, 05:38:46 AM: :) Looking forward to receiving mine.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on August 11, 2015, 01:21:55 PM: Thanks Michael. I'll let you know when I get it. Standing by...

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on August 22, 2015, 02:51:15 AM: Hello friends of Mignot-flats,

I hope somebody starts soon with a SBS for beginners and people who wants to learn something.
Don´t start at 15.8.2016.

It´s only necessary to paint one side of the Mignot flats because they´ll be presented in a frame
like the last projects.

The other Mignot figures the Plassenburg casted for "200 years Waterloo" was sold out at Saturday in Kulmbach.
They are still very popular.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Brian on August 22, 2015, 03:23:51 AM: I have Charles VII.
Strange little fellow but will be started today, what you lot got?
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Grimm on August 22, 2015, 03:33:59 AM: Do not worry Michel. I started painting my figure. I'm glad I got Foch. Would not mind owning a copy for myself.

Bernt
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on August 22, 2015, 03:39:15 AM: Hello,

thank you for starting with the painting project. I think it´ll be interesting for everybody.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on August 22, 2015, 01:47:18 PM: Quote from: Brian on August 22, 2015, 03:23:51 AM
I have Charles VII.
Strange little fellow but will be started today, what you lot got?

Richelieu on horseback. Red robes, armor; should paint up well!
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: marko on August 22, 2015, 02:11:59 PM: Julius Caeasar for me which should be great fun to paint.

mark 8)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on August 22, 2015, 03:41:26 PM: what with work and time flying by, I am still sorting bits and bobs, however, Charles and Roger will receive theirs at the end of next week :)

think I have Richelieu too, but haven't opened the packet since Kulmbach. I will start in the next couple of weeks and post in the workbench ;) Glen you can copy me if you like ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: gerry Larkin on August 22, 2015, 05:40:02 PM: Nick, Times Three ;D I have said figure also! Ive only got my figure painting Mojo Back! be it good ;D ;D ;D
ill have him done in-between projects i have planned.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on August 22, 2015, 07:25:26 PM: At this rate, Richelieu will be his own cavalry troop.

Michael, we'll need a lowly friar to walk behind them with a shovel and trash bin ...scooping.

:o
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Brian on August 23, 2015, 04:17:22 AM: :) ;)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on August 23, 2015, 04:43:36 AM: Hello Brian,

the Charles looks very natural; it´ll be a gem in the frame :D :D ;) ;)

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on August 30, 2015, 05:12:06 PM: Hello,

I will open a subject in the Workbench section of the Members, to detail my Step-by-Step painting of Charles X.
Indeed, I will need some time of preparation, because I found the oïl painting from which the drawing and engraving was extracted, but I will have to make some conversions on the face, the bicorne,the horse and the bust of Charles. In short some 11 small adaptations before I would start the painting.
I am not used at that scale, and I hope I will not scratch the flat totally, otherwise I might have to ask for another copy !!! For example the face engraving is quiet poor and different from the real face of Charles X!.
Here is an example of the face of Charles.
(http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/17/41/09/92/visage10.jpg)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on August 30, 2015, 05:24:53 PM: Hello Michel,

It´ll be interesting. I´ve never made conversions on a face of a 30 mm flat. I only use my oil colors to optimize
faces of 30 mm flats.
It´s a historic flat, engraved in the 30´s and the casting in Kulmbach was strong limited.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on August 30, 2015, 09:10:22 PM: I'm thinking it miight be easier to remove the engraved facial detail, re-establish the corrected facial features and perspective with finely scratched lines, then paint it as you would paint a small face on canvas or art paper.

Just a thought...
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: snagy on August 30, 2015, 11:04:04 PM: Yes, it is quite interesting trial.
Looking forward to see the progress.
Other way I am on the view of Glen: since it seems (comparing the face of the tin figure with the painting) that major modification should be carried out, the total rebuild would be more promising than modification of the present facial lines.
I think a Dremmel (Proxxon) powertool with fine chiseling head would be a help.
Good luck!
sandor
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on August 31, 2015, 03:50:15 AM: Hi all
My figure is king Sobieski and it is on the workbench
I will start a SNS in the Workbench part
I join a picture of the figure painted by Douchkine
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on August 31, 2015, 06:40:54 AM: Good idea too Eric !
It will also help others who picked the same flat...

To Glen = yes I did erase the engraving on the face and partly on the bicorne, and added some putty to make it flat for painting the face as a canevas or miniature. But I had also to add some left material to create a noose and chin.
More on the new subject later. I built some historical information about this unknown king in my culture..
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Grimm on August 31, 2015, 01:07:25 PM: A little more paint on my figure. It goes slowly forward.

Bernt
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: johnr on September 01, 2015, 09:49:52 AM: Here is my version of Richelieu.

John R
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: mumobenny on September 01, 2015, 10:05:05 AM: Quote from: johnr on September 01, 2015, 09:49:52 AM
Here is my version of Richelieu.

John R

Really very nice
Mauro
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on September 01, 2015, 11:06:21 AM: All looking very impressive :)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on September 01, 2015, 01:32:31 PM: Well, I think I must hurry to pailt mine !
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on September 01, 2015, 02:01:11 PM: Plenty of time, Eric.

John, magnificient painting, but taken away from far away... Wl try to enlarge ..

(http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/17/41/09/92/richel10.jpg)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: snagy on September 01, 2015, 11:32:12 PM: Mine has finally been cleaned and primed sofar
san d'or

[attach=1]

Cleaned and primed Charles VII
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Grimm on September 09, 2015, 01:21:25 PM: I have now finished painting my figure.

Bernt
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on September 09, 2015, 02:14:54 PM: Very good, Bernt, congratulations
This figure seems simple but is not easy at all to paint
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on September 09, 2015, 02:26:03 PM: I've enjoyed seeing what figures you've all got and how you are getting on painting them. I will be home from sea on Friday to open my envelope... and really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: snagy on September 09, 2015, 11:01:54 PM: Very good work, Bernt.
I like the face and the moustache most - but the entire figure is well done.
sandor
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on September 10, 2015, 12:33:48 PM: My Richelieu on horse piece is cleaned up and primed. Now, a question... Did Richelieu have a 'uniform'? Outside of his church vestments, I mean. In one painting he's wearing armor and the red cloak and cap. I was going to paint the armor, but looking at Michel's piece it seems he's not wearing it. Is the blue costume standard or did he wear a variety of other colors? My interweb research has not been helpful...

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Grimm on September 10, 2015, 01:09:05 PM: Thanks for the nice words. If anyone has the figure and do not want to paint it, than I will buy it.

Bernt
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on September 10, 2015, 01:14:28 PM: Hello Glen,

I think he wears an armor like on the "La Rochelle" picture, because he was very unpopular in France and
involved in the 30-years-war, the war against the Huguenots, etc. So I would wear an armor this time, too.
There are not many uniforms in the 30-years-war.

Private he wears the habit of a catholic cardinal without armor. As cardinal he had to hold a lot of wor ships
and audiences.

So I think his catholic habit was his "uniform".

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on September 10, 2015, 01:34:27 PM: Hello Glen,

here two pictures of Eric and Terana with armor.

On the way to church without armor and on the way to a battle with armor...

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on September 11, 2015, 05:00:32 PM: Well, I'm familiar with Richelieu wearing armor and the red cloak and cap, but my piece is definitely not wearing armor. It's just like JohnR's piece below and enlarged by Hannibal. I think I'll have to paint him in some sort of civilian costume - perhaps a purple hue? I'm going to try and paint the horse a dapple gray just to make him a bit different.

I'm thinking a group of scantily-clad and thinly veiled dancing girls might have been more my speed... ;)

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on September 11, 2015, 06:23:28 PM: Hello Glen,

then he´s on the way to an audience or to church ...

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: snagy on September 11, 2015, 11:44:22 PM: Another representation of Cardinal Richelieu . from my collection.
Best regards-

sandor

(http://www.intflatfigures.org/BFFS/gallery/3/2574-110915231824.jpeg)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on September 12, 2015, 10:04:32 AM: Very nice Sandor! Was Richie always on a white horse? I'm going for a dappled gray, but I don't want to upset the apple cart.

I meant to ask this before, but what's the gold fringed thing hanging off the saddle...?

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on September 12, 2015, 11:00:44 AM: Quote from: Roger on September 09, 2015, 02:26:03 PM
I've enjoyed seeing what figures you've all got and how you are getting on painting them. I will be home from sea on Friday to open my envelope... and really looking forward to it.

I'm now at home and no envelope containing a Mignot for the project, I'm now assuming I wasn't sent one????
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: marko on September 12, 2015, 11:22:58 AM: Great figure!

And the gold fringed thing is a holster for a pistol sometimes used to store a flask as well no doubt.

mark. 8)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on September 12, 2015, 12:17:03 PM: Quote from: Roger on September 12, 2015, 11:00:44 AM
Quote from: Roger on September 09, 2015, 02:26:03 PM
I've enjoyed seeing what figures you've all got and how you are getting on painting them. I will be home from sea on Friday to open my envelope... and really looking forward to it.

I'm now at home and no envelope containing a Mignot for the project, I'm now assuming I wasn't sent one????

Quoting yourself is a bit unusual nevermind twice but guess what arrived in todays post? :D :D :D

Thank you very much Brian and of course Michael.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on September 12, 2015, 01:19:42 PM: Arrived to destination Marmaris, South of Turkey, on the coast, facing the sea at 3 km full South, 30°C blue sky every day ...
I will unwrap the envelope and Charles X, with many adapatations and start publishing the step-by-step work in a separate post....Probably starting on Monday ....
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on September 13, 2015, 06:07:06 AM: Here's mine cleaned up and primed. I was really pleased to receive Sobieski, a personality I am already pretty familiar with.

However disaster struck when I was cleaning it up. I managed to break his crucifix. I've managed to effect a repair with epoxy though but I daren't try and remove anymore of the excess glue in case I break it again. With some paint on it and because it will be mounted on a background it might not be too noticeable..... hopefully. :-\
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: snagy on September 14, 2015, 11:10:19 PM: Hi Michael,
my Charles VII is in the envelope already and will start to you this afternoon (registered-priority).
I hope that he will arrive there even this week.
Thank you for the chance of participation in the project.
Br.
san d'or ;D
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on September 15, 2015, 02:59:37 AM: Hello Sandor,

if you´ve finished your Mignot-figure wait 2-3 weeks to dry the colors. First only the surface is dry.

I think it´ll be an interesting display. We´ve rare Mignot-figures from the antiquity (Caesar) until WWI (Foch).
The history of each historic figure is interesting, too. For example Vercingetorix was the living model for
the comic-figure Asterix.

And all figures will be painted by the best painters of Europe and the USA ...

Best regards and have a lot of fun

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2015, 11:50:55 AM: Quote from: Michael_43 on September 15, 2015, 02:59:37 AM

And all figures will be painted by the best painters of Europe and the USA ...

So... you want me to stop!? :o

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on September 15, 2015, 12:34:49 PM: Hello Glen,

when I look at your gallery I think you paint on a very high level.

You think a lot about light and shadows.

Today the first two envelopes comes back; the black background arrived last week.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on September 15, 2015, 01:09:19 PM: Hello John and Bernt,

thank you for sending back the painted Mignot figures.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on September 15, 2015, 04:06:03 PM: This is how mine is looking so far.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on September 15, 2015, 05:27:36 PM: He looks good.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on September 16, 2015, 02:20:20 AM: Thank you Michael. There is still quite a bit of work to do on the highlighting.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on September 16, 2015, 02:55:51 AM: Very nice Roger
Don't forget Sobieski is usually depicted with a mustach ;)
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on September 16, 2015, 03:04:29 AM: Can't you see it Eric? Maybe I will have to make it a bit darker.

Thank you. :)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on September 16, 2015, 04:33:03 AM: It is indeed on, but the picture is posted quiet dark to be unable to distinguish the détails even colours of the horse and of the clothing....
Perhaps take a new one and ajust lightening before posting
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on September 16, 2015, 04:40:24 AM: It is painted quite dark Michel, hopefully you will see a difference when I have done some more highlighting and post an update. :)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on September 16, 2015, 01:59:39 PM: Further progress.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on September 16, 2015, 02:02:37 PM: Coming very good !
Keep progressing
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on September 16, 2015, 02:14:29 PM: Thank you very much Eric. King Jan is having a break this evening while I work on something else, work will continue tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on September 16, 2015, 03:01:39 PM: Haa, much better !! and with a mustache!
Bravo, it goes on...
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on September 16, 2015, 03:05:40 PM: ;D Thank you Michel.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on September 21, 2015, 08:36:39 AM: Hello Sandor,

your figure for our Mignot paining project arrived today. Thanks for sending them back.
Now 3 figures are back.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: snagy on September 21, 2015, 12:45:46 PM: Thank you for the feedback Michael.
Br.

san d'or
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on September 21, 2015, 01:59:07 PM: Michael, I have an idea... :o I'd like to do a minor conversion on Richie to depict armor like that in the painting of him standing on the docks. Some scraping and minor puttywork is all that's needed; then paint. I just want to do something that's a little different from all of the others. Is that ok?

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on September 21, 2015, 02:44:09 PM: Hello Glen,

it´s ok to convert the Richelieu to a figure with armor. I think it´ll look good and it´s not a big conversation.

Several years ago I saw a nice harem of Fritz Menz. As basic figures he used the WIMOR-Harem 1001 night
and additional his saracens around as guard.

For the walls he used small carpets from an old carpet book.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on September 21, 2015, 02:58:06 PM: I think that might be what I was thinking of.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on September 21, 2015, 05:04:23 PM: I've started my Charles X in the workbench. http://www.intflatfigures.org/index.php?topic=2353.0 (http://www.intflatfigures.org/index.php?topic=2353.0)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on September 22, 2015, 12:08:08 PM: I've seen that set Michael. Or more accurately, a catalog .pdf of drawings. If I can't see the actual metal, I pass. Berliner Zinnfiguren also has a 1001 Nights Bath set - mostly nudes, but some background scenery. They show it painted, but no images of the bare metal. Again, I pass... Drawings and painted figures are not a selling point with me. Drawings indicate intent, but not necessarily what was actually engraved in terms of detail, perspective, etc. Likewise, a skilled painter can hide a multitude of sins with oil paint. This might be a bit harsh, I know, but my hobby budget is limited.

@Michel: I can't see your Charles X. Since this is a group-wide project, you may want to post it where everyone can see it.

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on September 23, 2015, 04:48:13 AM: Hi Michael

Sobiesky is riding to Regen
Tell me when he arrives
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on September 23, 2015, 06:56:31 AM: Glen,
Thanks for your comment, and I am asking to Mark where to place.
The BFFS project and the Workbench sections are located elsewhere, where I tought and placed it would be most appropriate, as it is a Work-in-Process posting.
But I can also post it as it is completed here, when ready... I am a slow painter .... and I have some visit, so matter of one or two weeks more..
Mark, can you advise and if better, move it accordingly?
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: marko on September 23, 2015, 09:12:51 AM: Along with the Journal one of the pluses of membership, a Step by Step workbench section!

You can also purchase 1001 arabian nights from Holland Merten in the links section. Their figures are displayed unpainted.

mark 8)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on September 23, 2015, 12:17:19 PM: Here's mine finished. I'll give it chance to dry some more before sending it back to Micheal.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on September 23, 2015, 01:24:28 PM: Yo Mark, I did see the 1001 Nights pic. It's small, dark, and muddy. There's just no enough there for me to consider purchasing. It also seems to be sold only as a set. I'd rather cherry-pick 6-7 pieces or so and go from there. As I am not a collector, everything I buy, I buy with the intent to actually paint. But whatever I buy has to be good - accurate in both dimension and perspective as well as detail. A drawing or painted figure gives me no real indication of what the metal is really like. Neither does poor photography. So, I wait...

Roger, your piece looks great ...and my apologies for jacking your thread.

Cheers,

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on September 23, 2015, 01:55:00 PM: Thanks Glen.
I have no problem with hijacked threads, I've learnt some pretty interesting stuff that way. ;D
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on September 23, 2015, 04:39:51 PM: Hello Roger,

Wow! I see you have a lot of experience in painting flats. It´ll be an exhibition on a high level in the frame.

Let the colors dry for 2-3 weeks. I can´t repair your painting.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on September 23, 2015, 04:52:45 PM: Hello Glen,

there is although a harem edited by Fechner (look at links) and a harem edited by Hafer and engraved by Mohr
in a high quality with only a few figures.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on September 24, 2015, 12:20:34 AM: Thanks, Michael! I'll check it out.

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on September 25, 2015, 07:18:46 AM: Hello Eric,

Sobiesky arrived today Regen. Thank you for the pretty painting and the perfect SBS.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on September 25, 2015, 10:44:52 AM: While I mess up trying to repair my Gondola :o I will get mine started. ;)

I've got Richelieu too!! I recon they will all face the same way, as all you can see from the back is his cloak and head. now there's an idea!! ;D
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on September 28, 2015, 04:20:33 AM: see I've started!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Now, what colour the Horse?
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Erich on September 28, 2015, 05:51:46 AM: a black one will made a good contrast to the red..

Erich
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on September 28, 2015, 06:09:07 AM: Thanks Erich, Yes I was thinking black this morning. :)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on September 28, 2015, 06:28:48 AM: He looks nice so far and a black horse would look good.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on September 28, 2015, 07:35:35 AM: Of course black looks as an evidence, but too evident
A cherry bay with deep brown shadows and yellow to white highlights, black hair light blue highlights would be quite harmonious with the cardinal clothes
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on September 28, 2015, 07:56:38 AM: Hello Nick,

I think piebold horses were very common in the 17.th century.

Look at the orginal paintings of the 30-years-war or the horses of Louis IVX.

Later horses with one color were more popular.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on September 28, 2015, 12:10:58 PM: Well, I thought everyone would be doing variations of a brown horse, so I was going to go with a dappled gray, so it would stand out from a black background, but not get lost against a lighter background if that's what was going to be used. It's good to see some color variations.

Nick your piece looks great!

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on September 28, 2015, 02:09:09 PM: Thank You all for the compliments.

Piebald it is ;)

Black and White, Brown and White, Grey and White, Tri-colour ( Red, Blue and White :o ;D ;D ;D )

Choices, Choices!!!! :-\
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roland Simon on September 29, 2015, 02:18:12 PM: Hello all,

I took the figure of Jan Sobieski in Kulmbach and like to show the work in progress. Next will be the horse, and I think it will be a golden bay.

Nick, your Armand du Plessis looks great.

Cheers
Roland
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on September 29, 2015, 04:03:42 PM: That's very nice Roland :)

I will post an update on mine tomorrow, however my eyes are now a bit cross eyed after working with a 30/0 brush!!! :o
It was a 10/0 Da Vinchi, but I got a bit over excited with the scalpel!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on September 29, 2015, 04:14:10 PM: Very nice, Roland
Waiting for the horse
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on September 29, 2015, 04:34:05 PM: Give the man a chance Eric, we ain't all speedy Gonzales ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D

in fact my Daughter says, " if I go any faster, I might just beat the Tortoise" !!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: gerry Larkin on September 29, 2015, 05:54:06 PM: ALL the figures so far look brilliant!! ill have to get mine cleaned up and primed, going to look an impressive display :D
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on September 30, 2015, 04:43:12 AM: Bit more detail work and cleaning up areas that needed it. Although there has been a fair bit of work done, it doesn't actually show. ;D poor photo as well!! :(
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on September 30, 2015, 06:47:54 AM: Keep on working !
Result is ...rather good ;) ;) ;) ;)
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on September 30, 2015, 11:33:01 AM: Nick/Roland, all looking good. Oils or acrylics? I've started the sculpting process on my Richelieu - he's going to get some armor.

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on September 30, 2015, 01:49:50 PM: They all look incredibly good !!!
Level is raising fast upwards ....
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on September 30, 2015, 02:20:29 PM: Thank You all, Michael Harding oils Glen ;)

I must say it is nice that a project has been so well received. Perhaps it's because of the Mignot figures and the different subjects within it.

The last project ( 30 years war ) did well, but this one has really got the juices flowing

Well done Michael ;)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roland Simon on October 01, 2015, 01:26:38 AM: Thank you all for your kindness. That will keep me busy.....
Glen, only oils by Winsor & Newton, Old Holland and Mussini
Roland
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on October 02, 2015, 06:41:36 AM: Richelieu nearly done ;) not sure if he would have had his family crest showing, but it does fit in the shield nicely on his pistol holder!
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on October 02, 2015, 07:19:52 AM: He looks good with his lights and shadows.

I think as cardinal he gets a blazon from his church. I looked at Wikipedia.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on October 02, 2015, 05:02:30 PM: Roland, I figured as much. The gradations in tone are great; very smooth.

Nick, oddly enough I was looking at the same crest for the pistol holder. That idea warranted a rethink when I saw the complexity. I didn't think of culling it down to just the three chevrons - well done. I do want to do something with it, tho'. Anything to break the expanse of gray horse and red cloak. Maybe a NASCAR sticker... 8)

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Charles on October 05, 2015, 01:52:15 PM: Late to the Party!
My figure was sent to an address I moved away from years ago...but luckily it has just reached me.
I got Vercingetorix, Will start on him next week when back from a short golfing break.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on October 06, 2015, 03:42:00 AM: Started the horse, building up the highlight first before the darker pinto colour
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on October 06, 2015, 05:48:02 AM: Hello Nick,

Richelieu looks better from step to step. It´s a lot of fun to paint such figures.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Ed Humphreys on October 06, 2015, 03:43:11 PM: I've been given Foch. It's not my period, and as everyone knows, history ended in 1821 with the death of Napoleon. I have no problem with Foch's uniform, but cannot find details of the horse furniture. What colour leather for the straps, what metal for stirrups and spurs, buckles and breast ornament. What about the schabraque and holster covers? Any help would be most welcome.
Ed
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on October 06, 2015, 05:04:06 PM: (http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/17/41/09/92/foch_m10.jpg)(http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/17/41/09/92/foch_810.jpg)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Ed Humphreys on October 07, 2015, 04:22:55 AM: Just what I needed. Many thanks.
Ed
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on October 07, 2015, 02:49:27 PM: Still pluggin away on my Richelieu. I've carved away some bits in the center and then added the arm, torso, and thigh arm. Nothing fancy; just the outer shape followed by engraved armor segments. Repositioning the cloak edge is next. I'll post a pic when the putty work is done. If nothing else, it reminds me of my efforts to scratch a 30mm pinup girl - way too little for my fat hammy fingers...

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on October 07, 2015, 04:56:13 PM: Keep going, Glen, I had also difficulties with my Charles the Xth; next time I will also adjust the left arm, although I have absolutely no talent for sculpting characters.... but there ust be a start one day ! and Nicks efforts with the venitian gondola had also encouraged me.
I would love to see the changes made !!! (before & after) !!!

The challenge this year looks very exciting!
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on October 07, 2015, 05:47:25 PM: Hello Glen,

I´m curious to see your changes, too. It´s interesting to see the development of painting flats.
I´ve some Mignot-figures in "Fabrikbemalung"; they where sold als figures for collectors several years ago.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on October 11, 2015, 12:38:57 PM: Well here it is! I removed the cloak over his arm and redrapped it over his back and rejoined with the existing engraving. This allowed the addition of the upper arm armor segments, a small section of the cuirass, and the suspended plate over the thigh. It took about 15 minutes of sculpting in two sessions - armor first, then the cloak. Next a bit more cleanup, then re-priming.

But first ...the NFL and the MLB Rangers!

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: snagy on October 11, 2015, 01:19:48 PM: Hi Glen,
what was the material you used fo the operation?
Best regards-
sandor
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on October 11, 2015, 06:01:34 PM: Aves Apoxie Sculpt. It's a two-part putty like Kneadatite/Green Stuff and the Milliputs. I use shaped toothpicks, a few rubber clay shapers, and a hobby knife bladed to work the putty with a final smoothing with a small wet paintbrush.Standard stuff, really. Working time is about an hour; full cure in four hours, but can be force cured with heat. It can be feathered, cut, and sanded to a smooth surface after curing. There are other colors - I prefer the medium gray, but this last batch I got was all the shop had and it's mixed to a white. I have no idea if it's available in Europe or the UK.

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: snagy on October 11, 2015, 10:49:56 PM: Thank you, Glen.
Very nice work!
Looking forward to see the developments!
Best regards-
sandor
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on October 12, 2015, 05:19:26 AM: Fascinating !!! I put the last pic from Nick against your pic, to see the change !!!
(http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/19/31/59/25/test110.png)
I have done similar transfo on a character of Panoramix (from Astérix cartoons) still under construction with six transformations in process ... (a 45mm size)
(http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/19/31/59/25/change10.jpg)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on October 12, 2015, 08:21:07 AM: Hello Glen,

great idee; now Richelieu looks like his portrait on the famous La Rochelle painting.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on October 12, 2015, 09:04:48 AM: Absolutely
(http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/19/31/59/25/untitl10.png)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on October 12, 2015, 12:24:37 PM: I'm glad you all like it! Here's the primed piece ready for painting.

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on October 12, 2015, 02:26:10 PM: WONDERFUL !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on October 14, 2015, 11:34:56 AM: Well done, Glen !
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roland Simon on October 19, 2015, 12:56:42 AM: Finished! Last saturday I did the last brush-stroke on the Sobieski. Here it is.
@ Michael: Schicke ihn Ende der Woche an Dich ab.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on October 19, 2015, 02:04:12 AM: Congratulations, Roland, this is a top quality painting ...and among the best seen sofar ....
8) I am really impressed! 8)
It becomes now a reference of What to reach in the ainting of these sizes.. A very hard challenge...
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on October 19, 2015, 02:20:07 AM: Too nice, as usual
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: fesak_j on October 19, 2015, 02:48:21 AM: amazing in the scale 8)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on October 19, 2015, 12:08:24 PM: Well done, Roland! Smooth, even painting and it positively glows.

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: johnr on October 19, 2015, 04:44:01 PM: Hi Roland,
As usual super painting and attention to detail.
It would be great to see one of the sbs's that you have done on the Figure Mad forum on this forum would this be possible?

John
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Brian on October 19, 2015, 06:26:14 PM: That is a little special ;)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roland Simon on October 20, 2015, 01:12:46 AM: Thanks to you all for your kindness and I'm glad, that you like my work.
John, I will do so. I have some projects in mind, that I would like to share. (Coming soon..... :) )
Cheers
Roland
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on October 21, 2015, 12:30:10 AM: I've made some progress! The armor has a base coat, but I'm not happy with it; the metal pigments in the paint seem too large for the scale. The skin tones are done, as are the hair, beard, and cap. The cloak is about 75% done, while the dapple gray horse is about 90+% done. To be continued...

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on October 21, 2015, 03:33:50 AM: I've given up to use metal powder in metal for 30mm fats . Better to use NMM, not so hard to use...
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on October 21, 2015, 04:07:01 PM: Well the odd part is I use metallic paints for 30mm rounds and there doesn't seem to be an issue. Old paint maybe... I have used NMM techniques on some pieces, but normally I like to polish the metal parts and then stain them with oils. Since Richie's armor was putty, that wasn't an option. Will rethink. ???
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on October 23, 2015, 07:30:18 AM: Hello Trevor,

your Mignot flat arrived today in Regen. Thank you.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on October 26, 2015, 11:09:49 AM: Managed to get a little bit done to the horse, however!!! :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ Richelieu now looks like he's sitting on a stone horse :o :o

Anyone want a statue painted, I'm your Man. :( ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

It'll be fine, trust me!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on October 26, 2015, 12:52:21 PM: Richelieu is gorgious !!!!!!!!!! The horse , well lacking shadows indeed.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roland Simon on October 27, 2015, 02:00:24 AM: Your Richelieu looks great. The horse - yes, a little bit like marble. ;)
Needs a few shadows and it will work......
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on October 27, 2015, 06:35:31 AM: Hello Nick,

I use Paynes´s Grey and Indigo for the shadow of a white horse and it´ll run...

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on October 27, 2015, 08:55:10 AM: The camera makes it look more blotchy than it really is so it should be OK :-[

A few colours to add in before the freckles ;D
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on October 29, 2015, 06:32:11 AM: Bit more on Trigger the horse!!

have added, French yellow ochre, paynes grey, violet and white , but the ochre doesn't show up too well!!

A bit more tonight and it should be getting there
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on October 29, 2015, 07:07:10 AM: Don't be afraid of the shadows, they give roundness and life

(http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/19/31/59/25/le-che12.jpg)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: fesak_j on October 29, 2015, 08:23:42 AM: very nice 8) is it painted in Oils? or acrylic? or combination of both?
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on October 29, 2015, 08:28:26 AM: I do like Richelieu's face
I think horse's shadows could be deepened; to warm it you could add a little burnt sienna
The cast shadow under the rein is false; it should go down at the end
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on October 29, 2015, 10:18:09 AM: Depends on the angle of the sun Eric ;)

all painted in Michael Harding oil.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on October 29, 2015, 10:47:40 AM: No Nick ::)
To have the shadow you made the sun should come from down
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on October 29, 2015, 02:27:09 PM: be a bit weird if it came up!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

no problem, it will be right when it's done ;)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on October 30, 2015, 05:22:20 AM: Well I give up with digital camera's!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Would you believe the section under his rear leg is neigh on black!! :o You can just see a bit more ochre though. Shadow under rein has been adjusted ;)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on October 30, 2015, 06:11:17 AM: Hello, Nick;;
For me still insufficienttly shadowed ..
I think the reason is that you still consider the legs of the horse and his back as "flat" and not "round".

When you bring shadow on a round tube or a ball, at least 1/3 of the surface in the shadow should be dark, when yours are only at the edge !!! Take a small figure of a horse, put Under the light in a dark room, an take a picture of the shadow, you will see !!
I tried very quickly to adjust on computer the effect as illustration... and darker ... There should be also no pure white on the surface opposed to the light source !! but darkness (conter light very slight at edge from environment reflections, but "less dark", not pure white !!

(http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/19/31/59/25/111x10.jpg)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Kulmbach on October 30, 2015, 07:19:07 AM: Dear,dear ... I think you are a little too harsh Hannibal, in your judgment of Nick´s horse. To me it´s looking rather nice. Perhaps a little more shadowing here and there. White horses are rather hard to paint, better to go for a gray with dapples.

Just a thought, the reins are usely resting close to the horse´s neck, without casting a shadow, not until the neck, in the front, gets norrow and the reins are hanging lose you will have a casted shadow.

Well, nobody said it should be easy to paint 30mm figures in an artistic way!
Jan
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on October 30, 2015, 08:17:15 AM: All comments are gratefully received :) Thank You 8)

This is basically the base coat ;) as the horse will shortly be turned into a Piebald. ( see earlier comments ) ;D ;D ;D

Yes indeed Jan, I agree with you, the reins wouldn't have a shadow until they drop off the top half of the neck, but personally I think that the effect, although wrong, does bring out the 3D effect better for a 30mm flat figure. As you say-- Artistic licence :) That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on October 30, 2015, 09:57:58 AM: Rein shadow is good now ! and I am Ok with the "artistic licence" concept
Anyway all that is a question of feeling and looking to much for perfection will harm spontaneity which is important in flats painting
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on October 30, 2015, 11:05:56 AM: ...and speaking of dapples, Jan. Here's Richie all done ...unless one or more you see a big boo-boo. Despite toning it down, there is still a bit of a glare on the armor; perhaps the scanner light is too intense. I also stole a page from Nick's book. Rather than try to duplicate Richie's full coat of arms, I just went with the three red chevrons. It was that or a NASCAR sticker. Or the MG logo.

Questions and comments are welcomed.

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on October 30, 2015, 12:04:20 PM: He's turned out very well Glen :)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on October 30, 2015, 12:59:41 PM: The horse is excellent
Congratulations
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on October 31, 2015, 11:44:53 AM: Thank you, both! That's the third horse I've painted since the '70s and the second 30mm horse in the last two years. maybe I'm getting the hang of it... ::)

This goes to my club meeting next weekend, then I'll send it back to Michael. Still thinking about the MG logo... 8)

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on October 31, 2015, 02:44:13 PM: Hello Glen,

thank you for your detailed painting and the sculpturing of the armour. It looks great.

I hope you had a lot of fun; that´s the aim of the painting project.

Now I´ll look every day in my postbox...

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Michael_43 on November 03, 2015, 06:37:14 AM: Hello Roland K. Simon,

today your Sobieski was in my postbox. Now 6 figures are back and waiting to be mounted on the black
rear wall...

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on November 03, 2015, 08:17:01 AM: thanks to Wake me up, I lost track of my Charles X !!!
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: marko on November 08, 2015, 02:07:29 PM: Almost complete now - horse has changed colors twice as has his cape but, happier now. Just needs some touch ups and finish the cuirass and then back to it's home. Despite all a sweet figure!

(I also knocked the horses tale off so there is a peg in the back for that as well... :P )

[attach=1]

mark 8)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on November 08, 2015, 05:34:51 PM: Neatly painted Mark 8)

Good to know I'm not the only one who tends to bend or knock bits off!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on November 09, 2015, 06:32:29 AM: Well, I'm done!!! ;D ;D ;D although, I haven't had the courage to turn the horse into a piebald :-\

The second photo is on a shelf, which shows up the 3D better than on black card ;)

Due to the light, the shading on the rear back leg is actually black!!! Just the base to paint black, then he's on his way ;)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on December 01, 2015, 07:04:10 AM: Well I think I'm done :)

He will be riding to Germany tomorrow Michael ;)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on December 01, 2015, 07:12:05 AM: That looks great Nick.

Can someone please email or pm me Michael's address please so I can send mine. I pm'd him last week but haven't had a reply.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on December 01, 2015, 07:14:32 AM: Can do it when I get home tonight Roger ;)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on December 01, 2015, 07:46:02 AM: Cheers Nick.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on December 02, 2015, 03:27:14 PM: Mine is on it's way to Michael, thanks again Nick.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on December 05, 2015, 09:42:13 AM: Dear All,

It is with great sadness that I have to announce the death of Michael on 27th November.

Having not seen him on the forum for 2 weeks, I emailed him last night to see if everything was OK.
This morning his Wife Angela emailed me back with this very sad news.

I met him and his wife in Kulmbach, where he was organising this project, and his enthusiasm was boundless and inspiring. He was, as they say a real Gentleman and I for one, will miss his great sense of humour on here.

Angela has asked us to carry on with the project on his behalf, and I feel it will be a great tribute to him. She is now sending me the figures, so I will personally see this through.

It goes without saying, that our condolences and sympathies go out to Angela and all the Family, and we wish them all the best for the future.

Nicholas
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Brian on December 05, 2015, 10:12:37 AM: Sad news indeed :( :(
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on December 05, 2015, 10:16:49 AM: I am greatly saddened by this news and my condolences go out to his family. I just sent out the armored Richelieu piece earlier this week and PM'd him to let him know it was coming.

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on December 05, 2015, 10:22:35 AM: Condolences to Angela
As I could see at Kulmbach Michaël was a very nice guy full of enthusiasm for flats
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Roger on December 05, 2015, 10:39:57 AM: That is awful news.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: marko on December 05, 2015, 11:06:31 AM: Rough year for our community, that is sad news. Sweet of his wife to carry on his enthusiasm.

Mark
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on January 06, 2016, 06:41:26 PM: Glen, Roger and Eric, I have now received your figures from Angela
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: gerry Larkin on January 06, 2016, 07:19:53 PM: Like Nick
Having meet Micheal at Kulmbach I too are saddened to hear the news of his passing
my condolences go Angela and Family he will be missed.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: marko on January 06, 2016, 10:05:12 PM: Nick I have a figure of Julius Caesar to return.

Mark. 8)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: snagy on January 07, 2016, 01:13:47 AM: Very sad news.
It always shocks me,when somebody with whom one has time to time frequent contact, passes away .
My sympathy to the family.
Sandor
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Ed Humphreys on January 07, 2016, 03:09:06 AM: I have one, Nick. It's Foch, not the most exciting of figures. I'm not happy with the horse's head. I'll have one more go, and send it off regardless.
Ed
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Charles on January 07, 2016, 03:27:30 AM: Ive got Vercingetorix. Half done, but Im off on holiday soon so won't be finished 'til at least February.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Erich on January 07, 2016, 03:29:18 AM: I have one too, Vercingetorix

finished now, needs a bit time for drying

please let me know, to which address
I have to send it then

Erich
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on January 07, 2016, 03:48:54 AM: I'll finish mine (Charles X) for Ransart to bring it there!
M.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on January 07, 2016, 05:06:06 AM: Thank you all.

No rush Charles, lets say a finish date of 1 June. I know how busy people are.

Nick
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on January 07, 2016, 10:39:42 AM: Thanks for the update, Nick. I was wondering what its status was, but I figured the holidays would've slowed things down a bit.
Cheers,
Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on January 14, 2016, 06:19:47 PM: Finished ...
(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/19/31/59/25/dsc04713.jpg)
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on January 14, 2016, 11:35:47 PM: Now that is top tier. Well done!

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: errant49 on January 15, 2016, 01:57:10 AM: Very nice !
Eric
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Nicholas Ball on January 15, 2016, 04:46:14 AM: very smart Michel, I shall collect it at Ransart
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on February 21, 2016, 11:04:51 AM: Sooo... what's on tap for the 2016 project? Vikings, Saxons, Normans, steampunk, armored space troopers, scantily-clad babes - warrior or otherwise?

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Brian on September 05, 2016, 07:04:15 AM: Starting this again, as you know the figures where donated by the Plassenburg Figure Museum and organised by our late member and friend Michael.

If you had a figure for the project you need to return it now!!, painted or not, painted ones will be displayed at Plassenburg with a mention to Michael.

Get your figure back to Nick or any committee member as soon as possible so this project can be completed

Big thanks in advance
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on September 13, 2016, 12:28:34 PM: Any plans for 2016-2017?

Standing by...

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on September 13, 2016, 01:24:22 PM: to Nick,

I should have talked about my Dervisch, for Kulmbach next year ??? :-[ :-[ :-[
With an article in December !!
I missed this time .. (I have aloready some 15 painters), but can prepare a text after my return from Toulouse...

Nick, what do you think? Unless we go for another set of flats, 30 or 45 mm ?? We are on time for the next 10 months

But also, please prepare another one to be started at Kulmbach for the season 2017-2018 !!!

Michel
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Mike G on September 13, 2016, 02:44:53 PM: I'd be very happy to participate as well
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Brian on September 14, 2016, 08:57:22 AM: A new project? the figures need to be returned from the last project, if you still have one of the Mignot figures we need them now!

Start a new thread and talk about what can be done for the BFFS 30th birthday (-;
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Brian on April 29, 2018, 03:29:02 AM: Well it been a long time, I think you have all had time to finish your figures so get them back to Nick!!

This was a special project , not just because Mignot figures are involved but it was Michael Hirise project with the society just before he died

I was told at the AGM that only 9 figures had been returned!! come on you can do better then that!!! get the figures finished and posted to Nick so a display is ready for Kulmbach.

If you join a project it is expected for you to do your bit, the figure is not yours but yours to paint and return, this was a special so don't lets mess it up.
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on April 29, 2018, 04:21:29 AM: You are correct Brian.

I have to do the same follow-up or the Sottish piekemen, Azincort knights and the dervish bust. Itwill be done , tagte still this summer for the first two and a bit later for the last.

Then time to think to the next project 2018-2019 !!
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Brian on May 03, 2018, 03:24:23 AM: So no replies !! think that sums up the state of the hobby

Michel, maybe it's time to think again about projects!! I know the BFFS has :(
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Hannibal on May 03, 2018, 05:46:48 AM: Let us see what BFFFS is proposing ....
I can find ideas qiet easily.

Of corse English commanders at Azincourt will be one too, but for next early year ...

In the mean tme ... !
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: Glen on May 06, 2018, 09:57:39 AM: The 2015 project is still going on!? I sent my completed piece back over two years ago... My 2017 pieces will be going back in a week or two.

As for a new project, try something that is NOT 1400 - 1865 and not Greek, Roman, or Middle Ages. Try pieces in the sci-fi, fantasy, or steampunk range - especially if you want to attract new people who are NOT middle-aged plus and gray haired. Seriously....

I am currently working on a 54mm Dark Elf Ranger flat.

You all have a very nice day...

Glen
Title: Re: Mignot Painting Project 2015
Post by: gerry Larkin on May 07, 2018, 04:25:06 AM: Why not become a full member? then you cant vote for what ever choice you want it makes perfect sence ;)