Please help identify this group

[errant49]

Living in the north of France, near Belgium and with British ancestors, how could I ??
Eric

[Glen]

...and don't forget the beer, Eric. 


Glen

[errant49]

The important thing is to find pleasure in painting flats, any flats 
Eric

[Zinnfigurenmaler]

As Michael has alluded, for me larger pieces are easier to paint because of problems with my eyesight. I bought these because I like them, and I thought they would be a good painting exercise as I am just now getting back to the hobby in a serious way. They also hold a certain charm/whimsy that I enjoy.

I acknowledge that a couple suffer from proportional issues (Atilla's oversized head and tiny feet, as examples from one of the figures), but the Roman and Kara Mustafa are well done; Maximilian is also well done but poorly cast and so unpaintable.

These will allow me to practice the various disciplines (flesh, metals, horses) while at the same time providing a bit leeway in regards to historical accuracy and research that will keep the pieces in the sphere of realism while still allowing for the artistic freedom that flats encourage over their full-round counterparts.

Rob

[Michael_43]

Hallo friends of flats,
here some additional informations:
The moulds for this figures were engraved in brass, so B&S can make clear and sharp castings.
1993/1994 a part of the Ochel figures were restored by Schmittdiel.
1997 Ochel were closed and 2009 Erika Ochel started again, so Ochel figures were not
available between 1997 and 2009. At this time it was popular to reengrave not available
figures in 54 mm. J.Vullinghs edited some Mignot figures in 54 mm, too.
When you´re getting older you might have some trouble with your eyes and then it´s easier
to paint 54 mm figures.

I think Attila and Otto d. Gr. are more fantasy-figures of the 30´s based on paintings of the
19´th thentury  So the Name is not so important.
The others are more authentic. For example you can see the armor of Maximilian in Vienna.
So the Maximilian figures look like the others (look at Scholtz, etc.)

I hope you understand my english. I learned it 30 Years ago.

Best regards

Michael

[errant49]

Totally agree with you Jan !
Eric

[Kulmbach]

Then I can´t see any need or reason to make rather inferior, for not saying poor, copies of already excisting beautiful original figures. Which also have the advantage of being of the classical 30mm size as well!
Jan

[errant49]

I looked at the B&S site and noticed that the names given to the figures are different
In my opinion the Ochel names are more accurate
Eric

[Zinnfigurenmaler]

Correction:

www.zinnfigurenfreunde-leipzig.de

then Links, B & S Zinnfiguren, Serienverzeichnis, GD Feldherrn die Geschichte schrieben.

Here you get the pictures as pdf with description.

michael

Thank you very much, Michael.

[Michael_43]

Correction:

www.zinnfigurenfreunde-leipzig.de

then Links, B & S Zinnfiguren, Serienverzeichnis, GD Feldherrn die Geschichte schrieben.

Here you get the pictures as pdf with description.

michael
 

[Michael_43]

Hallo friends of flats,
The figures were edited by Jürgen Schmittdiel, who sold the moulds.
Today B&S-Zinnfiguren Leipzig make castings.

Look at www.zinnfigurenfreunde-leipzig.de/pic/hpics/bs_pics/gdf.pdf, where the figures are shown.

They are 54 mm.

Best regards

Michael

[Zinnfigurenmaler]

Hello - all and thank you all for the replies.

Yes, the last photo is the listing I purchased via ebay.de. I think they are 50mm (or close).

Thank you, Eric for the ID's of each subject.

[Hannibal]

This is the editor, and the packaging.  I am on the way to get a flight now, nut can search leater on Monday to find the names.  The figures aare 40mm high
 

 

[errant49]

After a small research :
These figures have been copied from 30mm Ochel-Kiel figures
From left to right and up to down :
Roman general Scipio
Barbarian chief Totila
Emperor Otto 1st of Germany
Emperor Maximilian
Vizir Ibrahim Pacha
Wallenstein
Eric

[JerryMort]

Could the last two be Suleiman the Magnificant and Wallenstein?