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Flat Figures Painters Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: Hannibal on January 11, 2024, 12:45:49 PM
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Similarly I have flats from Conquistadors, infantrymen and cavalry, but I ignore who is the editor and whether there is a catalog:
The identification of the figure is "Ms YY" or "MS YY" YY are one or two digits, and the editor is a letter 'L' ronded on the back side of the flat base.
Can anyone help me. I have some 40 flats of this group.
Thank you.
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Hi Hannibal
I believe the Editor is Loy. I have 5 Conquistadors by Loy that I purchased from Western Miniatures at the Plymouth model show over 25 years ago. The engraver is Ludwig Frank.
Regards
Paul
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Hi Hannibal,
they are from LOY and now in Maier's catalog
Oleg
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Thanks Gents !!!
However the Maier's catalog refers only to fantasy figures, none are really 30mm historical such as these from the Spanish period, unless there is another catalog somewhere ...
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Show us which character you mean.
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Thanks Gents !!!
However the Maier's catalog refers only to fantasy figures, none are really 30mm historical such as these from the Spanish period, unless there is another catalog somewhere ...
Michel,
Oleg refers to Sixtus Maier catalog, as i know
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Yes, me too, only one catalog, but not such flats.
I have the following I.D. of flats with these "L" editor sign:
Ms 10
Ms 11
Ms 12
Ms 14
Ms 15
Ms 16
MS 72
MS 4
MS 5
MS 6
MS 7
MS 8
MS 9
M42
M43
M44
M47
Ms 30
Ms 31
Ms 32
Ms 37
Ms 42
Ms 43
Ms 45
Ms 48
Ms 52
Ms 55
Ms 56
MS 75
u 13
u 14
u 15
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See attached pages from the Maier Catalog (SIMA). The figures were edited by Hans Loy of Munich---designed mostly by Madlener and engraved by Frank.
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Fantastic, this is exactly what I was looking for, while not being able to recapture it on internet !!
Great thanks for this nice gift !!! and I ignored there are so many characters in this serie.....
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Hello Michel
You can download the whole Maier catalog of 2010 here:
http://www.zinnfiguren-bleifiguren.com/Firmengeschichten/Maier_Sixtus_Fuerth/Maier_Fuerth_Katalog_2010.pdf
Servus from Austria
Gerhard
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Great Thanks Gerhard !!
This is more than wished, as several other flats (like hunting, tournament knights, ...) are also explained and useful.
I can also notice that Maier has also a name "SIMA", which appears also on some bases of flats, for exemple from Cortez serie and that I could not trace.
I shall check if they belong on Loy serie, or to another list.
I have now many flats on Cortez from four sources: Loy-Maier (Ms, or M- or Lu- or BW-;) Gottstein- as (CO) yy and Kieler (Ba-, Bh-, Bs-, ) and Stoll (HH-).
Not all of them, but I could consolidate the whole based on drawing page is available, pictures of the flats, leaving blanks for missing pieces, to develop a complete collection set, and asking you help to comple with pictures of missing flats (recto and verso), which might take one year ....
I would still need to find the editor documentation of Stoll and lists, decriptive of the flats, then get helps of members for grey army stocks painted or not. (along with indications of the base , both side).
As first reply, send me yr name or response telling whether you have indeed such flats in your armies or collection. I shall publish later on what I have and complete lists as work starts......
Thank you for support
Michel / Hannibal
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Hi Hannibal,
Check out the Berlinner Zinnfiguren website as they have just listed 2 sets of Loy Conquistadors/Aztecs & 1 set of SIMA Conquistadors. They are in the flea market medieval section.
regards
Paul
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Hello Paul !
Super thanks, two ordered !! I have some, I'll update the list when received ....
Brillant!
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Yes Paul, excellent complement 45 flats , I had four other aztecs, and only seven Spaniards !!!
Thank you again!
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Yes Paul, 46 more flats , I had only 4 other Azteks and only seven Spaniards. Good move !!
Thank you
Here the Lu13
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f87/19/31/59/25/lu-13_10.jpg)
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Hi Michel,
Glad I could be of help. I check the Berlinner Zinnfiguren page regularly & have made a few purchases of flea market flats over the last 12 months,
Regards
Paul
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I did too but my grey army frew too fast and I had to stop.. . I bought some figures from Berliner too...
A second flat, that I am going to paint this month ... Ms 55.
(https://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/19/31/59/25/ms-55_10.jpg)
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I completed my inventory of flats related to Cortez. Photographies and descriptions are underway:
Spanish Aztec
editor/name horsemen footmen Footmen
Gottstein 9 42 27
Hans Loy/Maier 23 54 29
Kieler 1 11 6
H J Stoll 7 3
Henninges 13
SIMA 4
Tobinnus 2
unknown 1 2 1
Retter (w/Cortez) 7 12
Total 48 143 63
(update 26/01 = +19 Retter)
= 254 pieces.