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Re: Wurttemberg !st line Regiment
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2013, 06:36:56 PM »
Dear all,

the helmets of Wurttemberg Infantry are a complex subject. Please take a look for more details here (though german language)

http://www.forum.napoleon-online.de/showthread.php?t=1894&highlight=w%FCrttemberg+helme

Following the pictures of Faber du Faur there was probably not much difference between the Bavarian and (some ?) Wurttemberg helmets in 1812.
Alexander,
 I need to brush up on my german but that looks like a very interesting forum, seems you have looked into this issue before. You are correct, the variances in helmet/ head gear seem to be minimal and could most probably be altered to match through paint. I am actually looking at some Austrians that might do well also. The nice thing about the dilemma is there seems to be many, many choices available.
 Thank you for your help

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Re: Wurttemberg !st line Regiment
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2013, 06:26:37 PM »
Hi Ray. Broke out my books and came up with some idea about the Wurttemberg Helmet. I hope these might help you out. Willie

                            1. Militaria A study of German Helmets and Uniforms 1729-1918. By Jan K Kube  Schiffer pub.
                            2. Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow  By Philip Haythornthwaite 
                            3. L'Uniforme ET LES Armes Des Soldats Du Premier Empire vol #2 By the Funckens
                            4. Uniforms of The World By Richard Knotel the English version

I broke out number 3 as well, I'm in the process of comparing figures now... Thank you for your help

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Re: Wurttemberg !st line Regiment
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2013, 06:24:04 PM »
With einwenig colors change in deteil.
Maybe also be used these!
Here Search by Martin Andre

http://www.zinnfiguren-andrae.de/ShopNeu/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=53&Itemid=1

or at times Offizin Richadt Wünsch.

I am placing an order with this provider, thank you!!

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Re: Wurttemberg !st line Regiment
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2013, 05:53:54 PM »
Dear all,

the helmets of Wurttemberg Infantry are a complex subject. Please take a look for more details here (though german language)

http://www.forum.napoleon-online.de/showthread.php?t=1894&highlight=w%FCrttemberg+helme

Following the pictures of Faber du Faur there was probably not much difference between the Bavarian and (some ?) Wurttemberg helmets in 1812.

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Re: Wurttemberg !st line Regiment
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2013, 12:59:21 PM »
 Hi Ray. Broke out my books and came up with some idea about the Wurttemberg Helmet. I hope these might help you out. Willie

                            1. Militaria A study of German Helmets and Uniforms 1729-1918. By Jan K Kube  Schiffer pub.
                            2. Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow  By Philip Haythornthwaite 
                            3. L'Uniforme ET LES Armes Des Soldats Du Premier Empire vol #2 By the Funckens
                            4. Uniforms of The World By Richard Knotel the English version

nmrocks

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Re: Wurttemberg !st line Regiment
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2013, 11:41:21 AM »
Greetings Joerg,
I remember your fantastic Widow box Diorama, very well done! I have placed an order with Alexander Wilken though the poses are limited and I would enjoy a bit more variety. I am looking into the Scholtz figures as well.
Thank you for your information.
Ray

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Re: Wurttemberg !st line Regiment
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2013, 03:59:10 AM »
Just for completion:

Dr. Torsten Tenge, a Bad Oyenhausen dentist, has the Ehmke-moulds and a lot more Württemberger with Raupenhelm and normal (later) shako.
The pity thing is, that Mr Tenge has no e-mail address.

My Wurttembergers in the Borodino-Diorama are by Mr Tenge.
http://s1043.photobucket.com/editor?image=http%3A//i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b433/Joerg12/flat%2520tin%2520figures/SANY4247-1.jpg&detailUrl=http://s1043.photobucket.com/user/Joerg12/media/flat%20tin%20figures/SANY4247-1.jpg.html

The other thing is, that you can find Wurttemberg uniform plates in the net,
http://suche.web.de/pic/detail?q=w%C3%BCrttemberg+infanterie&fsize=all&pageIndex=6&detail=Z2IuPynResG72QnIVr0o3z5PCqVoBGqmdzUmoMTyGCPpBpStA%2BQGHJwtsYti42kW1L7cFMk9SRCrHu82sQD5sn7SlNrbDWy67m56ORZWmHGrW7mbyQY2%2F7ftnQwPACp%2FTG217Mtr1ekQYC9ztrVXmCocg%2BvBdgPzaaaVyUI488ejSud%2BfVJmymBV2lESI7Zeh%2FC9YggpHkC8%2BinR1YaZegNvqcs%2FWYt06bLa87jv0iM4mSfa07LgJDcR84IoXHt1hrwypmr05RMhua3jvP9t99OomKXqQkSZiaopT4%2Bzkio%3D

BUT they are completely useless without an explainig text, that is only availyble in German.
http://books.google.de/books?id=fr0RAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=de&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
The reason is, that in Napoleonic times the regiment's number contyntly changed, so that the plate shows most times not the correct distinction colours for a certain year.

Regards
Joerg
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Re: Wurttemberg !st line Regiment
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2013, 05:01:45 PM »
Alexander,
Thank you for coming to my rescue, that is what I was looking for. In my research I had thought many of the helmets looked slightly different, verified by you.
PS have you added any new sculpts to your offerings?
Ray

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Re: Wurttemberg !st line Regiment
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2013, 02:57:32 PM »
Dear Ray,

there are but a few "native" Wurttembergers with "Raupenhelm" existing for example this set :

http://www.zinnfiguren-wilken.de/anzeige_eigene_herstellung.php?art=wuerttemberger

Neckel did the Grenadiers with its very distinctive helmet and the infantry with shako for 1813 and light infantry. Both sets are today available from Scholtz.

Most collectors used Bavarians or Austrians of 1809 for Wurttembergers. The Bavarians (of Scheibert for example) need only a change of headdress i.e. shortening the "Raupe" a little.

Furthermore the headdress of the Wurttembergers is a difficult thing. There have been probably three different type of helmets in use !

Best regards

Alexander


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Re: Wurttemberg !st line Regiment
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2013, 12:39:31 PM »
With einwenig colors change in deteil.
Maybe also be used these!
Here Search by Martin Andre

http://www.zinnfiguren-andrae.de/ShopNeu/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=53&Itemid=1

or at times Offizin Richadt Wünsch.
best regards
Wolfgang


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Re: Wurttemberg !st line Regiment
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2013, 08:26:10 AM »
Mark,
 Thank you, that's helpful though limited poses makes putting together a larger group difficult plus the uniforms look a bit different than what I'm looking for. The search goes on......

http://www.ehmke-art.de/images/beispiel_big_7.jpg

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Re: Wurttemberg !st line Regiment
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2013, 04:38:48 PM »
There are a few here:  http://www.ehmke-art.de/de/shop/shop_3.html


Good luck on your hunt.


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Wurttemberg !st line Regiment
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2013, 03:41:55 PM »
Was wondering if anyone makes a suitable set of figures for this regiment, believe the Bavarian helmets are not quite right  but not sure who else might make figures that would work with the correct colors?
Ray




 

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