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johnb

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Re: Crécy and Tannenberg series
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2018, 01:47:49 AM »

tinman

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Re: Crécy and Tannenberg series
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2018, 09:37:05 AM »
You're welcome....There are two more figures that Hans Muller made for the "Crecy Series" that were not included in Ortmann's list:


MR 91: Mounted French Bishop with lance, galloping. This figure was meant to represent the Arch-bishop of Nimes and/or the Arch-bishop of Sens. Both men are included in the chronicler Roberto de Avesbury's list of dead French knights whose bodies were found on the Crecy battlefield. Ortmann did not include the figure because he did not own the mold. The figure was mistaken for a "Crusades" figure and sold to Fritz Menz. The mold is currently with K. Howey.


MR 96: Mounted English bowman, halted. Ortmann owned this mold so it is baffling why he did not include the figure as part of the series.


It is reasonable to conclude that all the figures MR79-MR110 were made by Hans Muller for Otto Gottstein's Battle of Crecy diorama.




Richard

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Re: Crécy and Tannenberg series
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2018, 05:29:59 AM »
Thanks John !
You can't be wrong as we see  figures belonging to the Tannenberg battle series on the pictures of BZ site. Unfortunately Scholtz doesn't give the references of the figures.
Richard


Richard

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Re: Crécy and Tannenberg series
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2018, 04:37:22 AM »
Thanks Tinman !
Don't worry for the quality of the pictures as they are well readable. Moreover, I have learnt anything I din't known and it is very interesting.

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tinman

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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2018, 10:17:41 AM »
The earliest list I have of Muller's "Battle of Crecy" is from the 1970s, when the writer/journalist Erwin Ortmann owned the molds. The set contained 26 English figures, 17 French figures, and 6 Geonese crossbow men. A total of 49 figures. Muller edited a number of additional figures that could be used for the series. I'm guessing that Otto Gottstein used more than the 49 figures when he built his famous "Battle of Crecy" diorama.


I attach the list and pictures of the figures. My apologies for the poor quality of the photos as they were shot quickly with a cell phone.




Richard

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Re: Crécy and Tannenberg series
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2018, 04:55:00 AM »
Thanks Erich. I'll visit the German Ebay site.

Thanks Jonh. The first set dysplayed by Scholtz are well the searched figures for the Crécy battle. I 'll verify the rest.
Richard

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Re: Crécy and Tannenberg series
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2018, 08:34:44 PM »
Richard,


Scoltz/Berliner Zinnfiguren have some sets that look like Muller figures however they frequently they don't advertise the old Editor.  See for example -


 https://www.zinnfigur.com/en/Flat-Figures/Blank-Figures/Military-History/Middle-Ages/Special-Series/English-Knights-at-Crecy-1346.html?force_sid=ukaob9h4vmuvibom5hrg8qur72


This is just a hunch though as I haven't seem many pictures of the original figures.


regards
John

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Re: Crécy and Tannenberg series
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2018, 11:45:55 AM »
Richard,  unfortunately I don`t know who has the moulds today -
at the moment some of them are offered on german ebay -   crecy  -   ordensritter - polen
Erich

Richard

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Re: Crécy and Tannenberg series
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2018, 06:38:10 AM »
Thanks Erich,
I am searching for these old series both engraved by L Frank, because I have got some figures and I would like complete them and swapp the spare ones.
I know Wolfgang Friedrich. He is a very good engraver, nowadays one amongst the best. I collect his figures of the 30 Years War, particularly these after the drawings by A Wilke.
Richard

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Re: Crécy and Tannenberg series
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2018, 06:04:23 AM »
You can find some wonderful figures from Wolfgang Friedrich here...
see Crecy and Grunwald
http://www.zinnfigurenfreunde-leipzig.de/her/wf/wf-2.htm
and some more Figures at Schmalkalder Zinnfiguren
https://www.schmalkalder-zinnfiguren.de/30-mm-flachfiguren/mittelalter/

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Crécy and Tannenberg series
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2018, 05:03:30 AM »
Hello !
Who could provide me the list of the figures of Crécy series and the one of Tannenberg series (with the drawings if possible) ?
Best regards.Richard

 

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