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8rad

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Re: First flats
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2018, 09:10:27 AM »
the holes were buried so that the air can escape from the mold. This is done where no air ducts can be pulled out. In the holes wooden sticks are put so that no tin can run into the hole.


Ahh makes sense, spent today casting enough plaster blocks for 3 figures. Also taking advantage of the sun we are getting to dry them out. So hopefully go to start a engraving tomorrow in to early next week. Plenty pewter ready to go =)

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Re: First flats
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2018, 12:03:27 AM »
the holes were buried so that the air can escape from the mold. This is done where no air ducts can be pulled out. In the holes wooden sticks are put so that no tin can run into the hole.

8rad

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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2018, 02:25:34 PM »
Hi


Brill thanks for these, the link at the end was most helpful. I see the basic workflow now, not sure what her was doing at 1.30 in the second section (drilling small holes and putting something in). But other than that looking at his tools i have many tools and engraving pens that look the same. I just thought were they for wood and have been using them wrong.


Going to retry with harder potters plaster to simulate slate (and practice) before getting the real stuff. Thinking also to 3d print a 1mm thick silhouette for judging the initial depth. I imagine its easy to take out to much in one area making the overall result uneven.


Anyways huge thanks for the pointers and links, pretty much going to have a go over the weekend. 
 

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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2018, 09:26:22 AM »
Now the suitable tool is actually made for goldsmiths.
Bollstichel the size 1,2,4,6 and the same as Flachstichel should be sufficient for the beginning.
many engravers will eventually make their "own" tool out of steel needles, etc.
Here is an address in Germany where you can order tool. http://www.zujeddeloh.de/artikel540.html#a2608 Certainly there are also dealers in the UK.You can order slate here. It is very good and cheap engraving slate. It is the best price I know in Germany.
http://www.raizinn.de/ say here Greetings from me  ;)
and something else to watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrp5j_KrbAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG0KKm1qU9E

http://www.zinnfiguren-rieger.de/Frame-Set%20firma.php?unterseite=gravuren.php&PHPSESSID_netsh10540=3ecb0335b1144390639888c581f29fee

I hope this helps youGruß Gerald

8rad

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Re: First flats
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2018, 02:24:20 AM »
Hello,
Plaster is actually quite good. Cast ceramic should be better suited.
Slate is not the same as slate. Roof slate, floor slate, etc. is not suitable.
If you want I can tell you an address where you can order good engraved slate in Germany, at a reasonable price. (I think the shipping will be more expensive than the slate). I can also give you an address where you can order the tool for the engraving.

Greetings Gerald

Thanks Gerald that would be really appreciated =). Shame I have a big pile of roof slate which I have been experimenting on with power engravers and wood tools. No idea there was a special tool, hoping to learn much more from the art of the tin figure when it arrives. May be more expensive plaster would be better than the bog standard plaster of Paris I tried before. I have access to a kiln so could make the tougher fired stuff.
 

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Re: First flats
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2018, 11:54:49 PM »
Hello,
Plaster is actually quite good. Cast ceramic should be better suited.
Slate is not the same as slate. Roof slate, floor slate, etc. is not suitable.
If you want I can tell you an address where you can order good engraved slate in Germany, at a reasonable price. (I think the shipping will be more expensive than the slate). I can also give you an address where you can order the tool for the engraving.

Greetings Gerald

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Re: First flats
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2018, 04:13:13 PM »
Hi Brad welcome!


You might try here:


http://www.intflatfigures.org/index.php?topic=1809.msg11323#msg11323


Brian King has recently trod this path of discovery and can offer some advice.


mark  8)
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8rad

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First flats
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2018, 03:07:53 PM »
Not been on for a while, other projects etc. Recently bought some flats on ebay and was super surprised at the finery and detail. Also was expecting them to be thicker but they really are almost as thin as paper. Being a publisher of paper minis really keen to make some of these. Literally have a copy of "the art of the tin figure" in the post which is apparently required reading.


Tried engraving on a number of materials ,plaster, fimo greenstuff etc but sanded down roof slates feel the best so far. Even tried 3d printing but the res is nowhere near. Are there any engravers on the boards what slate do you use and where do you acquire it if i may ask. Plaster was recommended before but found it too crumbly.     

 

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