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Gerald

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Re: Kulmbach 2017
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2017, 04:25:43 AM »
Frank is absolutely right! Old publishers go and new editors will come, eg. Christan Luscher. But where are the young engravers?

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« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2017, 03:10:04 PM »
Hello,

I am new here, come from Germany and use a translator since my English is very bad.
I've been following this interesting discussion for some time. Since I myself was an exhibitor in Kulmbach it is interesting for me to hear how the visitors think about this year's exchange. For me it was a good stock exchange and also the turnover was satisfactory.
Yes it is a problem with the flat pewter figures. The older editors want to have much too much money for the old forms. Unfortunately, the fewest successors can start with the forms and so land some form then on the landfill.
But we collectors and editors have another problem. In order to bring new figures to the market, we urgently need new engravers. Our present engravers are usually more than 60 years old. In 10 years, this craft is extinct if we are not promptly traded.
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Re: Kulmbach 2017
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2017, 03:37:12 AM »
I did not visit the Kulmbach Börse.
But I see two big Problems for the future of the flat figure.
First. Most Editors are from Germany, and many (most?) of them are in advanced Age. (and almost all are private collectors - not "companies"
I do not know, if I am right, but, there are very fewer new figures editet as in the "golden years".
Second: There are very few non-german Editors. Round figures are produced in most countries of the figure-collecting world.
So, I think it is sad, but, its a Logical decline ot the flat figure.
On the other side. The BFFS Forum is the only active Forum in the Internet.
(Klio Forum for example - there was not a single post in july, and two in August 2017.)

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Re: Kulmbach 2017
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2017, 02:07:57 PM »
Thanks Nick !!!
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Re: Kulmbach 2017
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2017, 11:24:27 AM »
Michel, the BFFS are well up in the mix and trying to push the boundaries  8)

With regards the declarification of tin figures, I was personally in direct contact with the head scientific officer of the Eu, as well as most of the German parties involved.

As with the growing number of flats at Worldwide shows, again this I feel is down to the members of the BFFS getting out to these far places to promote flats. If you recall at Ransart and Einhoven 4 years ago, we were basically the only ones showing the flats in competition, and there weren't that many. Last year the tables were full :)
As we continue to 'invade' other countries, popularity is slowly growing :D

We are a small but dedicated group and will constantly strive to continue to make the flats a permanent feature at all shows. 8)

So a big Thank You to all our Members for their continued support and keeping the society going.  :)

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Re: Kulmbach 2017
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2017, 05:02:36 AM »
Hey men, there was a great hope to be there this yar, missed with health problems on the last minutes .... I heard also critics from elewhere, and your two messages comfort me in not having been there this year, with better hopes in 2019 !!!!
But to keep dominating the compet in number an sie, we have to mobilize ourselves, to avoid that like other European compets, flats would only weight 5 to 10% of the total !! It would be a shame. We've two years to revitalize this and come all of us to change the image !
My wife and I came in 2015 by exposing almost 3 meters of flats, and did we planned this yar, but could not come ... I saw fantastic paintings among the pictures; the town was perhaps stressed by the works done on the Markt Platz.  I hope it was a "bad year", not a slow slope to hell !!  unless the young generation is not taking the hands that elderly painters like us ('m 71) is giving aay slowly, in favour of internet, facebook, videogames .... Is the Golden Century of flat behind us?
More and more European (and US) exhibitions handle nowadays flats as a separate category, thank you for this instead of mixing them with the round flats; why not also miniatures mixed?  The few who still rests will just loose flat painters (like Montrouge for me !!).  We should share more our art, no enough communiaction bridges between Germany and France, Spain, Belgium .... Judgug methoology still too dispersed, no effective training unified for mutual recognition or equivalency, resulting in frustration even of Masre painters with various competitions ....
We alsmost lost the business few years ago with the declassification of tin and lead as dangerous substanes by Europe !!! Only Germany had very strong and concerted reaction ....  Perhaps we should have an European association, Kulmbach is the best representing event, but also with editors, painters, distributors, judges, ....club representatives .... with a meeting at ... Kulmbach or other German space the other year of of the Börse year?
Just ideas .... where BFFS could also have an input with their senior staff ...
 
 
 
 
Michel
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Re: Kulmbach 2017
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2017, 04:34:07 AM »

I have been hearing lots and a lot far from good!! the town had no interest in the show as most bars where closed, a few traders never showed, and the comp was dominated by one club, who by the way made up half the judges, the atmosphere was lost for the flat collector with more a more round figures creeping in, I thought this was the flat weekend? our weekend!!


Paul it is a big shame that the one you chose to go to is the worst in many years, believe me this is not the norm.


A letter from the BFFS should be sent pointing out some of the disappointments over the weekend so they can be addressed


To all who had this as their first Kulmbach don't wright it of, this year the organizers had lots of walls to clime just to get the show together!
next one will be better


   
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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2017, 04:07:47 AM »
Well- I don't like to be negative  But---
   After 2 years in the planning - I believe I could not have picked a worse year to travel all the way from Australia to visit Kulmbach
It was a COMPLETE FIZZER !! 
  As my Dad, Peter Barnes never had enough money to go to "The Show" I decided 2017 would be his Tribute year.
 To those of you who do not know, My Dad introduced Jim Woodley  (Co-founder of this society) to the World of flats & taught him how to paint them way back in the 60's (or 50's even ?) My Dad met Gottstein at BMSS after WW2 1948 I think it was ? & that is how he got interested in them.
The permanent display at the Schloss was excellent however & did reduce the disappointment a little bit.
 At least I've ticked "Visit Kulmbach" & quite a few other things off the "Bucket List' on this trip.
I did buy the nice Kulmbacher Bier set at Plassenburg Schloss & some nice Napoleonic flats at Berliner Zinnfiguren.
Still a great hobby Regards Paul Barnes




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Re: Kulmbach 2017
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2017, 06:21:29 AM »
still 40 pics gross (civil/fantasy+tent/tables)  to load, then I'll go to cleaning and comments ....
Michel
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Re: Kulmbach 2017
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2017, 03:51:52 AM »
joerg:  ;D   ;D ;D  ..... you re right, it might be nice surprise to show up a year earlier than in plan is  ;D

Hannibal

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Re: Kulmbach 2017
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2017, 04:31:32 AM »
sorry, absent for part of the day, but figures are sorted, and will be loaded progressively today & tomorrow (210-215).


exemple of choices I got now ....


I want to load the best picture collected, when choise is available ... Youi will see as description above:

   KZ45      means gross picture untreated , best selected among several
   $KZ45    means final picture but no comments enclosed, nor description
   'title'      means final lay-out and comments  (  "Title"  means description of the author, (Title) of the editor)

After I will correct spots, distorsions, and complete descriptions ( a good week work)......
Michel
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Hannibal

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Re: Kulmbach 2017
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2017, 10:20:31 AM »
some links; dioramas tonight, then history starting tomorrow ....

http://poildemartre.forumactif.com/t2395-kulmbach-2017#35637

more links Inside that one ....

Michel
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Mike G

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Re: Kulmbach 2017
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2017, 09:56:38 AM »
Can't wait to see them!
New York

Hannibal

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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2017, 04:43:07 AM »
Sorry guys for keeping you waiting with pictures of Kulmbach...

I have some 400+ pictures from ten(10) sources that I am sorting to extract the best when duplicates. As I ignore (no names, no title) from who or what level, instead of loading them at random, I will enter them in the following sequence (but I load from the end):

I will eventually come with some 215 pictures !!

 - general, room, displays
 - bourse, tent
 - art copies (*) then civils/fantasy subjects     
                          (*)= copies of paintings or sculpture, like Mona Lisa, Néfertiti bust, ...
 - animals
 - fantastic
 - histo ancient age (<800)
 - histo middle age  (800-1492)
 - histo renaissance+ancien regime (1492-1789)
 - histo first empire (1789-1820)
 - modern time (> 1820)
 - dioramas (27)
then 11 pictures of Kulmbach town to finish

sorting is almost done, I am selecting and starting to reaster the selected pics fr defects, misalignment, dust or light spots, frames cut, .. then will load from the end (Kulmbach is entered now).

So be patient, it takes 3 to 4 days, but I am entering each day sections you can go and see... in Kulmbach 2017 Show Gallery.

Note = in the mean time, I have loaded pictures from Kulmbach shows .... since 2007 ! from what I could find on the net ....



If you are aware of any non identified work name, painter name on these pictures, please send me an MP , I will add the information, so you can use actively the "SEARCH" function in the menu gallery to look for your works, or any othr subject across the 8000 pictures (if info was given).  If no description or name, only YOUR MEMORY or a 100% visual screening of the gallery must be used to find the picture!

Thank you when loading yourself a picture to give a title, the painter name, size, subject or period, editor, (engraver), to make the seach tool very effective to the entire community !!!

Thanks for your patience ..

Hannibal
« Last Edit: August 16, 2017, 06:38:59 PM by Hannibal »
Michel
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Re: Kulmbach 2017
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2017, 02:09:26 PM »
Hi Joerg,

It was great to meet up with you again and get some valued  pointers on making box dioramas. I may, as you suggest cut down on the depth of my diorama, and who knows in 2 years you may see another  ;)

With regards the presentation, I spoke to Franz and they certainly had a problem with the slide machine. As for it being in German, well as they say-  when in Rome.....

I think of all the shows we go to, Scale Model Challenge in Einhoven have got it right. Although the presentation is in English, ALL winning figures are shown as are the names of the winners, even if you can't understand the language you know whether to go up for a medal or not, and more importantly, everyone can actually see which  figures won and what medal they received.
There was confusion in our camp ( as you could expect anyway!! ;D ) as one medal winner seemed to have the name Ball Nicholas, luckily someone appeared out of no where before I could make a fool of myself ;D

That aside, The show organisers did you proud, and as usual we all had great time. :)

Roll on 2 years :)




 

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