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Title: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: John Hoffmann on December 27, 2013, 10:52:37 PM
I'm a past member of the BFFS. Reading the new site it appears that there have been some changes in the world of flats.


Where would I be able to get some of the war elephants superbly engraved by Ludwig Frank? I believe Paul Krog used to sell them.

I'm particularily interested in the one painted  by Mr. DiFranco.

I also have a large selection of flats ( mostly Napoleonic)that I know I will not have time to paint so would like to sell them here on the site. How do I do that?
Thanks for your help.

John
Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: marko on December 28, 2013, 02:50:26 AM
Hi John.


The Krog elephants are classics but, now quite hard to find as he has passed and his family closed the business.  However, rumor has it many of the moulds were sold and they may again be available.  I do see some of them on E Bay once in a while.


As far as selling I would suggest placing some pictures on the Sale/Trade/Wants section of this site and seeing if you have any takers.  Napoleonics are always popular but, we all have more figures than we can finish.  Lovely problem of the hobby.


Good luck on both your problems.


mark.  8)
Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: Kulmbach on December 28, 2013, 08:57:17 AM
If ... one should talk about "classics" it would be appropriate to refer to them as "Gottsteins figures".
Jan
Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: böckchen on December 29, 2013, 02:06:41 AM
no matter if classic or not. There are very beautiful engravings.
The forms have some life stages not only accompanied Gottschtein and Krog.
The shapes are back in their home!
At the time they are geortnet and reperiert. The Association of Leipzig they Sammlerfeunde-ZFL asks to refrain from large orders.
Most of the figures are in only one form, that a man or riding in a mold. This will incur for the commissioner person (Wolfgang Friedrich) a lot of work.
The old catalog numbers will continue to have validity.

Here you will find a new Anspechparner for Gottstein characters.
Detmar Munkelt,
detmar.munkelt @ web.de     

I hope that I have brought you hope for 2014!
Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: errant49 on December 29, 2013, 03:31:24 AM
Hi Wolfgang
This is good new
Doed mr Munkelt speak French or English ?
Eric
Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: mike on December 29, 2013, 05:07:20 AM
Excellent news Wolfgang. Do you know if they will be issuing sets in the future?
Mike
Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: böckchen on December 29, 2013, 05:16:20 AM
Eric, canst thou take the kontagt with Detmar (Presidet the association) in English.
It can also help you safely.
The figures wierd give it back, but have patience.

Here one of the first form and Revised by Wolfgang cast.
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Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: errant49 on December 29, 2013, 06:12:00 AM
Thank you Wolfgang
Eric
Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: marko on December 29, 2013, 12:57:28 PM
Yes thank you Wolfgang and very good news!


I have several of the elephants and all of them are beautifully engraved.  Truly wonderful engravings.


Mark  8)
Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: John Hoffmann on December 29, 2013, 01:16:18 PM
Thanks for the replies and information. Sorry, I'm still not quite clear as how to order some of these Greigselefanten and from who (or is that from whom?) Could someone reply with a web site or e-mail address. Thanks, it's good to be back!
John
Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: marko on December 29, 2013, 01:35:19 PM
I believe you want these fellows:


http://www.zinnfigurenfreunde-leipzig.de (http://www.zinnfigurenfreunde-leipzig.de)

(They are in the links as Leipzig Flat Collectors Society)


We were told around the last Kulmbach that this group has purchased many of the Gottstein moulds so this appears to be some early results.

Contact being:

Detmar Munkelt:

detmar.munkelt @ web.de     


Good luck and let us know how it goes.


Mark


Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: John Hoffmann on December 29, 2013, 08:10:16 PM
Hi Mark,
I sent an email to the address that you provided, but it bounced back, undelivered.
Also went to the web site but could not ascertain where on the site they sold figures or if they had the Greigs elefantens.
Any thoughts or advice?
Thanks again,
John
Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: böckchen on December 30, 2013, 01:51:18 AM
Sorry,
We're working on it!
but life is not always all the same and sorfort sale.
Our web page is not formed according to statutory conditions for a sales shop.
Please use the first lists of old catalogs of Paul Krog.

And they turn to to in writing by letter to the Chairman of the ZFL'm here again for you Our contact the club.
D. Munkelt
Ring 76
04416 Markleeberg
Germany
detmar.munkelt@arcor.de

Currently our club has but to clarify more important tasks with the city of Leipzig, .... how to do it with the pewter figures Mueseum next?
We apologize for any inconvenience.
Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: errant49 on January 05, 2014, 02:59:43 PM
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Zinnfiguren-Kriegselefant-Flachfigur-bemalt-/121248662156?pt=Figuren&hash=item1c3afbc28ci
John
There is a cartaginian war elephant for sale on ebay de; see link
It is painted but you could clean it
Maybe you could bid a reasonable price
Eric
Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: John Hoffmann on January 06, 2014, 02:25:54 PM
Thanks Eric,
I actually just got one from Ebay. It is quite nice, unpainted and I think it is engraved by Sixtus Maier. Now I need to find a few "attackers" Maybe some Romans? Anyone have thoughts on where I might find some of those? I am not too familiar with which editor has what figures. I'm just starting to go through the links list. Very helpful.
Thanks agin,
John
Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: errant49 on January 06, 2014, 02:57:31 PM
Do you have the Gottstein catalogue ?
If not send me your email address an I will send you a copy of the elepants page
My email  :  talmanteric@gmail.com
Eric
Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: marko on January 06, 2014, 04:13:36 PM
Congratulations on your find, Gottstein's Elephants don't show up much any more.  You might try Gerald Nadebor for Romans as I believe they specialize in that era.

Mark 8)
Title: Re: Carthaginian War Elephants Engraved by Ludwig Frank
Post by: John Hoffmann on January 06, 2014, 06:22:14 PM
Thanks for all the help and advice fellas.
Eric I think I have the Gottstein elephant pages. There are a few more on Ebay today, but will probably fetch a high price.
Thanks for the link Mark. I will contact them for more illustrations of their figures. The site doesn't appear to have them. (unless I'm not clever enough to find them!)
It's good to be back. Thanks!
John