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Flat Figures Painters Forum => Newbie Section => Topic started by: 8rad on September 20, 2015, 05:52:44 AM

Title: Got start somewhere
Post by: 8rad on September 20, 2015, 05:52:44 AM
So it did on a Sunday morning with a dremel engraver and a roofing slate =).


(https://40.media.tumblr.com/a19271c44c4838549a5d531db9c2e611/tumblr_nuyz3zsotF1silouko1_540.jpg)



Gave up after some flakes chipped off but the main thing was i got a taste of some of the problems. Main one how to transfer a pic on to the surface. Anyway moulding powder and pewter in the post.


oh better pic of the orc and a terminator (just cause he was fun) .


(https://40.media.tumblr.com/46616dea2f85e56f819fa63c288329a5/tumblr_nuyz3zsotF1silouko2_540.jpg)


8r

Title: Re: Got start somewhere
Post by: Glen on September 20, 2015, 01:02:28 PM
A good start! Getting familiar with  the tools and materials. Not sure if power tools are commonly used when engraving flats (others will chime in, I'm sure). Hand tools might give you more control and there's no vibration transferred to the slate and no abrupt skipping. Both might contribute to the flaking.


Press on!


Glen
Title: Re: Got start somewhere
Post by: Michael_43 on September 20, 2015, 01:55:07 PM
Hello Brad,

a famous German engraver was dentist and he used his old dental tools for engraving in slade.
The fine work he made with hand tools.

So I think you´re on the right way.

Best regards

Michael
Title: Re: Got start somewhere
Post by: 8rad on October 04, 2015, 03:00:26 PM
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Decided on trying some French Napoleonics, made a start on the first block (plaster of paris). Thinking i have over reached on the complexity of the lineart. Found very few vids on how to engrave these so in quite a tough learning curve.   
Title: Re: Got start somewhere
Post by: Brian on October 06, 2015, 05:03:39 PM
Keeping an eye on this Brad, looks scary as a first go!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Got start somewhere
Post by: Glen on October 07, 2015, 02:44:34 PM
A good start with drawing; it looks like it have a bit of a cartoon look to it. I can't quite figure out the shape of the banner. Paint will make a difference, I suspect.


Press on!


Glen
Title: Re: Got start somewhere
Post by: 8rad on October 11, 2015, 06:26:12 AM
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ILcboyDVtFbHh6bzNNdFFFb0U/view?usp=sharing)


Carving out in negative is very tricky, i can see how it would take years to master. So looking for a quicker approach but keeping the quality. Inkjet on asitate feels like the way to go with plaster of Paris image transfers, using flat plates of plaster. Even trying to make the plates to the shape of the mini. I do enjoy these learning curves.


8r
Title: Re: Got start somewhere
Post by: Brian on October 15, 2015, 05:42:34 AM
Brad have a look at these, from our mate Andreas and might help 



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrp5j_KrbAU&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG0KKm1qU9E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTCZQ-b9DK0
Title: Re: Got start somewhere
Post by: Hannibal on October 15, 2015, 10:58:59 AM
Fascinating !!!!
Title: Re: Got start somewhere
Post by: 8rad on October 27, 2015, 05:20:04 PM
went through 1kg of plaster no win yet, more on the way. The internet has so little info on making these which is weird. Looking to get better tools, is it jewellers hand engraving tools and scribes the sort of thing im after. More determined than ever now to get this sussed =).




 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0ILcboyDVtFVDB2VzdBUW91M2s)
Title: Re: Got start somewhere
Post by: 8rad on November 08, 2015, 01:51:10 PM
Gave up on the plaster and tried fimo, quite happy with the first skirmish. Need to make the reverse side and cast in pewter. 
Title: Re: Got start somewhere
Post by: 8rad on November 15, 2015, 05:58:17 AM
Still figuring out how to make the pewter mold and killed a few sculps in the process, but always more ready to take their place.
Title: Re: Got start somewhere
Post by: 8rad on November 22, 2015, 05:20:54 AM
struggling to get the thinness right with fimo, reverted back to the more elastic like greenstuff. But here is my first , albeit rough as old boots flat. On to the mould next and once done will have a basic workflow for these things  :) . 
Title: Re: Got start somewhere
Post by: Joerg on November 22, 2015, 03:57:04 PM
@Brad
These figures and groups (better -their originals)
http://www.edition-krannich.de/rshop/themes/kategorie/index.php?kategorieid=95

are made from a kind of Fimo.

But rhey are approx. 10 mm thick.
Title: Re: Got start somewhere
Post by: 8rad on November 23, 2015, 03:06:38 PM
very cool thanks for that, really like the last square. would you know who the artist is. 10mm thickness would be a lot more workable =)
Title: Re: Got start somewhere
Post by: Joerg on November 23, 2015, 03:40:29 PM
@Brad,
the figures and groups were modeled by Egon Krannich (owner of the website),
modeller, figure engraver and publisher.