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Glen

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Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
« Reply #87 on: October 29, 2017, 10:21:59 AM »
This is the primary reference I'm using. It was posted very early in this thread. Note the lighter color of the gambeson and the chest insignia. Some of the details on the artwork were not duplicated on the figures, but I'll work around it.


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Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
« Reply #86 on: October 28, 2017, 05:01:17 PM »
I saw the painted set at Veldhoven with the vendor and will post them on the laptop of my wife later tonight in this answer .....  Keep in mind this is the interpretation of the painter, not a mandatoy box art!
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« Reply #85 on: October 28, 2017, 04:54:41 PM »
Thanks. Already well on them. I've noticed the standard bearer figure has a brown gambeson, but the references show the gambeson as being a light tan color with the standard emblem over the figure's heart. I'm going to try an paint this, but the Fleur de Lis' will probably be little more than a dot pattern applied with a toothpick. I'm painting my light direction from the upper right front because that's the direction they're facing. When all else fails ...light the face.

Pressing on!

Hannibal

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Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
« Reply #84 on: October 28, 2017, 12:07:14 PM »
Sorry Glen, read now only.
1) I plan to paint one side only, light from the front left side as these flats will be exposed in a frame, not in a diorama
2) Colours are set by the coat of arms for the most;  your figure is Jacques III de Heilly, killed at Agincourt, his coat of arms is "De gueules, à une bande fusellée d'or", so colours are Red and Yellow  (I can't attach figure from my laptop now).
Jacques III of Créquy, sun of Jacques II de Créquy, lord of Heilly, served the duke of Burgundy Jean Sans Peur of which he was one of the main captains. In 1408, he marched against the Liege to restore their bishop on the episcopal seat. In 1413, he was made Lieutenant General of Guyenne. As a prisoner in Bordeaux, he fled. He took part in the battle of Agincourt in 1415 and was killed by the English, on the grounds that, against his word, he had escaped from his prison.
The nuance of red and yellow you wish to give is up to you, either bright, saturated or not; the colours we hav today from historical flags an paintings have been somewhat been faded by exposure to the aging and sunlight.
Michel
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Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
« Reply #83 on: October 28, 2017, 11:32:25 AM »
Ok, no feedback. I'm going with the existing refs and one sided. Charge!

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Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
« Reply #82 on: October 25, 2017, 02:57:42 PM »
I'm cleaning up and priming mine. Tried to do it during ReaperCon, but I was pulled in too many different directions and finally started working on the Dark Elf Ranger.


Just to be clear:


These are two sided figures; I am painting one or both sides?


I am painting these according to the previously posted refs; red surcoat with yellow diamonds on one and a brown gambeson on the dude holding the banner (and the banner itself is also painted as shown in the refs).


Correct?


Glen


While I wait I will enjoy a soft musical interlude of Blackmore's Night...  8)

Hannibal

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Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
« Reply #81 on: October 13, 2017, 05:56:44 AM »
I will start working on end next week; because we have Veldhoven, and I just acquire a new camera Nikkon, which I have to learn using correctly if possible before next Friday !
 
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« Reply #80 on: October 13, 2017, 05:48:32 AM »

How are you all getting on with the project??   still got 6 figures left if you want to join the fun.
Will be 3 joining and you get 2 figures sent at random  ;)
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« Reply #79 on: October 02, 2017, 11:16:09 AM »
Thank you Francesco, for your two replies !
Michel
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« Reply #78 on: October 02, 2017, 10:34:17 AM »
Perhaps I would post the WIP in a separate post to avoid a big mix-up, because I am slow and busy on others, but on this public menu, like "BFFS Agincourt Project 2018 - WIP Michel  (or Hannibal?)" for the two characters.


Should any of us follow this way ? I found it very good ..
Cheers
Francesco
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« Reply #77 on: October 02, 2017, 09:20:00 AM »
I have a question to Middle Age specialists = what are the colours worn by the Standard bearers knights.
Here is one A3, standard bearer of the Constable of France painted with light green background and crosses blue, I believe, He has no specific name; is colour lefte to appreciation, or to searches in the History to find out who was bearing the flag?  Engraving was done with a reason perhaps ?
Basically standard bearers worn colours recalling those of the lord, obiouvsly non wearing same heraldry. In this case however i think you are speaking of the stadard of Constable of France intended as first officer of the crown , white with yellow fleur de lys,  and not of Charles d'Albert in himself  which has his own banner bearer. In this case I think you can choise any coluors you enjoy, in a vignette Mario Venturi represent the bearer wearing a dark red tunic with gold/yellow  figures.
Hope this is usefull.
Francesco
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Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
« Reply #76 on: October 02, 2017, 04:51:59 AM »
Yes !!!

I found too my two knights, BEAUTIFUL ....

Perhaps I would post the WIP in a separate post to avoid a big mix-up, because I am slow and busy on others, but on this public menu, like "BFFS Agincourt Project 2018 - WIP Michel  (or Hannibal?)" for the two characters.

I have a question to Middle Age specialists = what are the colours worn by the Standard bearers knights.
Here is one A3, standard bearer of the Constable of France painted with light green background and crosses blue, I believe, He has no specific name; is colour lefte to appreciation, or to searches in the History to find out who was bearing the flag?  Engraving was done with a reason perhaps ?

Michel
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« Reply #75 on: September 24, 2017, 08:19:34 PM »
Must visit Alain next week, to recuperate my two flats, and so start planning the preparation for painting....
I strated looking at the coloursof the coat of arms, and will probably use brighter colours than Francesco, to avoid a copy paste without any inspiration!!!
But I will keep the light coming from the front left side as standard source to shadow the flats!!
Any new candidate to join ??
 
Michel
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« Reply #74 on: September 17, 2017, 06:52:02 AM »
I will do so too ! an excellent exercise !
But with Fabrizio, you refer to the top of the top !!
Michel
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« Reply #73 on: September 17, 2017, 06:06:44 AM »
I went to Menton Show yesterday, i saw the flats painted by Chieli Fabrizio, they are gorgeous. I will erase all drawings of stars and flowers, i do them in free hand
I bought a serie for me

 

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