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Ducel1

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Re: Paper Soldiers
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2018, 02:49:49 PM »
Hi Ray,The figures are not die cut.  Kruger & Cie produced 2 albums titled "La Grande Armee".  Each album had a glossy green cover depicting the Imperial coat of arms.  Each album contained a total of nine heavy bound pages, eight depicting soldiers and the ninth page contained a template of a base for each figure.  The soldiers needed to be cut out by hand and mounted on their base.  The "title" of each figure was printed on the back.  I have each album in my collection in their original bound condition.  The albums were printed in Paris in 1960.  Let me know if I may be of further help.Russ

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Re: Paper Soldiers
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2018, 12:40:19 PM »

Hello Ray
 Suggest that you go to eBay,fr., and t search paper model soldiers, you may be surprised at what pops up.
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2018, 08:11:56 AM »
Hi Russ,
 Thank you for the info, more leads to follow! So you say these were originally produced as a paper sheet and not die cut? mine were mounted on card and not originally stamped on the back with personality or rank? How old is this set?
Ray
Hello nmrocks,Your paper soldiers were printed by the French firm Kruger & Cie who were located in Paris.  They produced two large bound volumes titled "La Grande Armee" with glossy green covers with the Imperial coat of arms.  The first volume included the Emperor and his general staff, and Music of the Grenadiers of the Imperial Guard.  The second volume contained the Emperess Dragoons, and the Third Swiss regiment.  A third volume was proposed to include the Marines of the Guard and the Dutch Grenadiers of the Guard but never came to fruition.  Hope this helps.
Regards,Russ

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Re: Paper Soldiers
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2018, 10:18:42 AM »
Hello nmrocks,Your paper soldiers were printed by the French firm Kruger & Cie who were located in Paris.  They produced two large bound volumes titled "La Grande Armee" with glossy green covers with the Imperial coat of arms.  The first volume included the Emperor and his general staff, and Music of the Grenadiers of the Imperial Guard.  The second volume contained the Emperess Dragoons, and the Third Swiss regiment.  A third volume was proposed to include the Marines of the Guard and the Dutch Grenadiers of the Guard but never came to fruition.  Hope this helps.
Regards,Russ 


nmrocks

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Re: Paper Soldiers
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2018, 07:37:40 AM »

Hi Bob,
Thank you for the information. I would be a bit surprised if these did not come originally on card and pre die cut or stamped, they are very consistent in there cur, even the margin if non figure surround left on each figure. also the title on the back of each lends me to believe these are as they were originally sold.
I will be digging into the huge amount of info you and Richard have provided to get the story. I have seen some modern day producers of paper soldier that are available in the form of paste to card.
Ray




The paper soldiers that you show were printed in sheets on ordinary paper, you then pasted them onto suitable cardboard, cut them out and gave them wooden stands to give you a figure.
They were made famous by the collections of Boersch and several other artists, whose collections are in the Model Soldier museum at Strasbourg, the Army Museum in Paris,
They were the forerunner of the flat figures and due to their cheap method of production very popular.
You can still obtain various versions of the figures they usually come up for sale on EBay.
Paul Martin a French author has written several books and articles on the subject which you should be able to find still, and is the authority on this subject.
Frederick Berjaud still produces his own version of cut out figures to a very high standard and he can be found on the web.
The other site of interest is Miniatures Militaress Alfons Canovas who has many illustrations of the Carl Schmidt Napoleonic figures which are suitable for mounting.
The Paper soldier Museum Strasbourg did produce several booklets of cut outs and may still be available try Amazon France.
Pinterest also show many types of paper soldiers although, they are in the main not Napoleonic but they do have a good set on the battle of the Little Big Horn and Agincourt.
Hope this helps

BobLeighton

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Re: Paper Soldiers
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2018, 04:40:55 AM »

The paper soldiers that you show were printed in sheets on ordinary paper, you then pasted them onto suitable cardboard, cut them out and gave them wooden stands to give you a figure.
They were made famous by the collections of Boersch and several other artists, whose collections are in the Model Soldier museum at Strasbourg, the Army Museum in Paris,
They were the forerunner of the flat figures and due to their cheap method of production very popular.
You can still obtain various versions of the figures they usually come up for sale on EBay.
Paul Martin a French author has written several books and articles on the subject which you should be able to find still, and is the authority on this subject.
Frederick Berjaud still produces his own version of cut out figures to a very high standard and he can be found on the web.
The other site of interest is Miniatures Militaress Alfons Canovas who has many illustrations of the Carl Schmidt Napoleonic figures which are suitable for mounting.
The Paper soldier Museum Strasbourg did produce several booklets of cut outs and may still be available try Amazon France.
Pinterest also show many types of paper soldiers although, they are in the main not Napoleonic but they do have a good set on the battle of the Little Big Horn and Agincourt.
Hope this helps

nmrocks

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Re: Paper Soldiers
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2018, 06:27:47 PM »
Richard,
Perfect!  just what I was looking for, nice to find another flat figure site I did not know about also. I also found a link to a paper soldier site in Strasbourg http://petitssoldatsdestrasbourg.blogspot.com, there I believe I will find the ultimate answer. will search for the book as well.
Many thanks,
]Ray
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Richard

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Re: Paper Soldiers
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2018, 11:13:56 AM »
Hello Mmrocks
There is an a French collectors association of figures, mainly of flat : Association des Collectionneurs de Figurines et Figurinistes de l'Est de la France.They have a web site : http://afcfef.fr/
In the gallery, look at the names : Fourquet Philippe, Quiquerez Francis.
If you were interested in this topic, I would advise to read : Paper Soldiers, the illustrated history of printed paper armies of the XVIIth, XIXth and XXth centuries, by Edward Ryan and published in 1995 by Golden Age Edition. (The author is Americanand the editor British.)Best regards.Richard

nmrocks

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Re: Paper Soldiers
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2018, 08:54:08 PM »
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Paper Soldiers
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2018, 08:51:25 PM »
A bit off topic but we did see recently a beautiful group of Original paper soldiers shown by Alexander Baden. Vladislav Yankovsky was dabbling in paper with his 30mm catalog but these are much larger and have a sort of victorian feel to the art .
So I couldn't resist this huge group of French Napoleonic paper soldiers. I'm relatively sure they are die cut on card (a bit thicker) and all are stamped with either personality names or military rank, also done in French. There about 60mm size. I've searched the web for any paper soldier forums without success. Has anybody seen these before or can you point me to any source information? There are more than shown here,
Ray

 

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