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Title: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 07, 2017, 04:23:22 PM
To our members and also visitors !!


With the new issue of eight flats by Mauro Venturi, drawing of Andrea Gagelmann an engraving by Regina Sonntag, from MB Miniatures for Kulmbach this year representing eight characters of the famous battle of Agincourt in 1415 opposing the English army of Henry V against French Army led by the Constable f France, Charles Albret,  I propose to start a new painting project extending till next year July 15th 2018, and addressed to BFFS Members and non-Members !!
These flats are based on 1/72 figures on the same subject and magnificently painted by MB Miniatures, and will be a première as far as the flats are concerned ….

(https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/31/59/25/10-4_110.jpg)

Please refer to the announcement post of Brian for the history of this theme:  http://www.intflatfigures.org/index.php?topic=3351.msg22484;topicseen#new
I suggest that each participant will receive two (2) flats of his /her choice (**) among the set of eight, free of charge, and commits to paint them and send them UNFRAMED for free and no return to BFFS in England, person to be designated, and this before July 2018, to be consolidated and exposed by BFFS at Euromilitaire 2018 and subsequent competitions.  An article will also be issued in the BFFS Magazine.

During the painting period, you are also kindly invited to explain, perhaps discuss, question the paintings on this site here and on this post, and we will present the pictures of the finished paintings in the Gallery, as figures are returned to BFFS.
We need by reply your registration here, your choice of two characters (first in-first served) and your shipping address and email contact for communication, by MP. (**) Choice can be indicated on registration or on picking up the two pieces at the BFFS booth at Kulmbach during the festival !

We will post the two flats selected after Kulmbach during the month of August, unless picked up on site at the BFFS booth in the tent, if you are present!
As orders to the editor should be placed rapidly for Kulmbach, I would appreciate receiving your interest and future registration, to determine how many additional sets might be ordered for end of next week at  Kulmbach.

The eight flats represent the main commanders of the French army which took part to the Agincourt battle on October 25th, 1415, ending with disaster for the French, during the Hundred Years war.
(https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/31/59/25/set_nu11.jpg)

The eights flats of the set are the following:  (**)

A1:   Jean I de Bourbon  (John I), Duke of Bourbon
(https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/31/59/25/a110.jpg)

A2:   Jacques III de Créquy, seigneur of Heilly, maréchal de Guyenne
(https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/31/59/25/a210.jpg)

A3 :   Charles, Duke of Orléans
(https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/31/59/25/a310.jpg)

A4:   Jean II le Meingre called “Boucicault”, marshal of France
(https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/31/59/25/a410.jpg)

A5:   Standard Bearer of the Constable of France (A6)
(https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/31/59/25/a510.jpg)

A6:   Charles d’Albret, Constable of France
(https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/31/59/25/a610.jpg)

A7:   Banner bearer of the Constable of France (A6)
(https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/31/59/25/ay10.jpg)

A8:   Banner d’ Orléans (A3)
(https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/31/59/25/a810.jpg)

Proper documentation will be provided electronically for the coat of arms based upon figures paintings.
Thank you for your participation and interpretation of this very rich period of the Middle Age, revealing your talents and exchanging information about our mutual hobby and passion !!!

We will keep you informed of the remaining flats available here, as they are selected; first selected, first served...  Three sets of the eight flats will be available = twenty four (24) figures or twelve pairs; more later if needed and asked by the end of the Kulmbach show !!

Michel

Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: marko on August 07, 2017, 06:07:35 PM
Michel,


I have ordered a set of these and would also like to join your project as well.


A favorite period of mine, these are some figures I have been working on for a while in three dimensions - still have not got the painting of fleur de lys down quite right.


mark  8)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 07, 2017, 11:53:02 PM
Hello Marko,

Itwill be with great pleasure if you join; let me know at you convenience which two characters you propose to paint. Can I consider that you will get them by yourself direcly, or from the BFFS pool?

Michel

(I will also restroactively review the Joerg, Mike, and others messages.....)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: johnr on August 08, 2017, 04:30:44 PM
Hello Michael,
I would like to take part with figures 5 and 6. I can pick them up at Kulmbach.
Thanks for you generosity in funding this project.
I hope that your recovery is going smoothly.


Regards
John
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 08, 2017, 05:23:44 PM
Hello John,

This is a great pleasure to welcome you in the project, and you are the first to give your choice.

I will track the selections, but can I ask the staff of BFFS at Kulmbach to confirm also the identifctions of the flats taken by each person registering there till Sunday noon, to keep a tracking of what is in which hands ?? ...


Flats Available: (**)
A1:  3
A2:  3
A3:  3
A4:  3
A5:  2
A6:  2
A7:  3
A8:  3

Registered & flats allocated
1. Johnr (GB) =    A5+A6 = will be picked up at Kulmbach by himself, please note the Nos
2. Mike G (US) =             = to be shipped to NY by BFFS (not the A4 please)
3. Joerg (DE) =               = will be picked up at Kulmbach by himself, please note the Nos
4. Michel (BE) =               = will be picked up at Kulmbach by Alain Moerman (AMC Belgium) (+one set of eight)
..
..
..


(**) NOTE : If BFFS at Kulmbach gets short of characters with the three sets, please use also from the set No 4 bought by Michel Brasseur.  I will order another one later from Mauro, or complete it, but priority is given to the registrations ....
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 09, 2017, 03:59:37 AM
Corrections:

1) Erich (DE) No 4 = cancelled for time being (error)
2) Adding Gregory Dufour (FR),  Daniel Canet and Marko

NEW STATUS

Flats Available: (**) 09 August morning
    A1:    3
    A2:    3
    A3:    2  (-1)
    A4:    3
    A5:    2  (-1)
    A6:    2  (-1)
    A7:    3
    A8:    2  (-1)
Total:  20   (-4)

Registered & flats allocated
1. Johnr (GB) =    A5+A6 = will be picked up at Kulmbach by himself, please note the Nos
2. Mike G (US) =             = to be shipped to NY by BFFS (not the A4 please)
3. Joerg (DE) =               = will be picked up at Kulmbach by himself, please note the Nos
4. Michel (BE) =               = will be picked up at Kulmbach by Alain Moerman (AMC Belgium) (+one set of eight)
5. Dufour (FR) =  A3+A8  = to be shipped to his home
6. Daniel C(FR)=              = will be picked up at Kulmback
7. Marko (US)  =              = has ordered a set separately
..
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Glen on August 09, 2017, 01:00:02 PM
I'm in! Figures A2 and A7. Figures will be done in acrylics. Looking forward to it!


Brian has my mailing address. Standing by...


Glen
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 09, 2017, 01:11:32 PM

Thank you Glen and welcome.  Info passed here. 

Brian, can you pass to BFFS Team before they leave tomorrow, to put these flats aside as reserved ....  I ignore who is going to Kulmbach ..
(just copy the tables below, so that they can complete at Kulmbach.
 
As far as I am concerned,  I would take in the remainings, but would love having one bearer and one without flag, if possible (nt mandatory); I leave the choice to BFFS !!!




NEW STATUS

Flats Available: (**) 09 August evening !!!
    A1:    3
    A2:    2  (-1)
    A3:    2  (-1)
    A4:    3
    A5:    2  (-1)
    A6:    2  (-1)
    A7:    2  (-1)
    A8:    2  (-1)
Total:  20   (-4)

Registered & flats allocated
1. Johnr (GB) =    A5+A6 = will be picked up at Kulmbach by himself, please note the Nos
2. Mike G (US) =             = to be shipped to NY by BFFS (not the A4 please)
3. Joerg (DE) =               = will be picked up at Kulmbach by himself, please note the Nos
4. Michel (BE) =               = will be picked up at Kulmbach by Alain Moerman (AMC Belgium) (+one set of eight)
5. Dufour (FR) =  A3+A8  = to be shipped to his home
6. Daniel C(FR)=              = will be picked up at Kulmback
7. Marko (US)  =              = has ordered a set separately
8. Glen (US)  =    A2+A7   = to be shipped to Glen
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Brian on August 09, 2017, 01:49:56 PM

Some photos of the figures painted Cheli Fabrizio










Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 09, 2017, 02:04:57 PM
Superb!!!  He makes me hungry to start !

An excellent challenge for us all!!



I transposed the numbering of the project characters to make your choice easier!

(https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/31/59/25/azinco10.jpg)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: fsbarile on August 10, 2017, 10:55:35 AM
Excellent project, may I to partecipate ?  Figures preferred A5/A7 but all of them are really actractive.
Francesco


PS the figure showing heraldry ot the Boucicault is wrong ( He is Charles d'Artois), the right heraldry is D'argent à l'aigle éployée de gueules becquée et membrée d'azur"   as in the painting of Fabrizio Cheli .
Thanks to all
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: mumobenny on August 10, 2017, 12:25:51 PM
painted figures by fabrizio cheli for reference
(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20638420_10209411448699665_2010694474666309510_n.jpg?oh=977a3b11f05eaf70e05766d0ec0d789e&oe=59EF93F6)


(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20728046_10209411449259679_4562699876500242513_n.jpg?oh=c975613c71bd313d6fbeb99a4ca2a603&oe=59EEB434)


(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20664851_10209411449859694_5274470288910880612_n.jpg?oh=439a10169223d74647e6b56d380d3647&oe=5A2FB4CE)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 10, 2017, 12:33:26 PM
Hello Francesco !

Yes , be welcome, and we will try to allocat you these two figures, if possible.  Are you visiting Kulmbch, or shall we send you the flats?  In which case, please send me an MP with your address. If in Kulmbach, please go and have your flats at the BFFS booth  !!

BFFS team is at Kulmbach till Sunday, some participant will choose there their flats, and un returning back, we will see what is available, because I can't communiacte with them now.
(Unless Brian has a phone contact with them to indicate your choice !!)

For Boucicault, you are correct, but the original coat of arms f Charles d'Artois was changed as being too complex to paint at that scale, so the painting of Fabrizio is correct now !!  Informaton came very recently !!!

Michel






NEW STATUS

Flats Available
: (**) 10 August evening !!!
    A1:    3
    A2:    2  (-1)
    A3:    2  (-1)
    A4:    3
    A5:    1  (-2)
    A6:    2  (-1)
    A7:    1  (-2)
    A8:    2  (-1)
Total:  16   (-8)


Registered & flats allocated
1. Johnr (GB) =    A5+A6 = will be picked up at Kulmbach by himself, please note the Nos
2. Mike G (US) =             = to be shipped to NY by BFFS (not the A4 please)
3. Joerg (DE) =               = will be picked up at Kulmbach by himself, please note the Nos
4. Michel (BE) =               = will be picked up at Kulmbach by Alain Moerman (AMC Belgium) (+one set of eight)
5. Dufour (FR) =  A3+A8  = to be shipped to his home address
6. Daniel C(FR)=              = will be picked up at Kulmback
7. Marko (US)  =              = has ordered a set separately
8. Glen (US)  =    A2+A7   = to be shipped to Glen in the USA
9. Francesco (IT)= A5/A7   = to be shipped to his home address in Italy







Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: fsbarile on August 11, 2017, 03:37:29 AM
Thanks for the warm welcome Hannibal, unluckily I will not be in Kulmbach so i sent a MP to you with my address. Thank also for the answer on the Boucicault.
Francesco
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 14, 2017, 10:27:10 AM
Ah !!

My friend Alain forgot to go to BFFS booth, having received the fout-rth set from  ... Western Miniatures (?!), so is back with a set of eight.

So BFFS, Brian, can you summarize with our BFFS friend at Kulmbach which flat was picked up by who, what is now back in England, and what can be allocated to the table below for shipment; Also what is left over for further candidates (including myself).
In case of shortage, I can ask Alain to ship flat from the 8x set he has now in his hands ...

If anyone wish still now to join our painting project, you are welcome in the coming weeks, there is not closing time to start, ut more to complete the task mid-2018 !!!!  Just et know, choose two flats and send an MP with your shipping address ...

Is also Mauro part of the game?

Michel
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: errant49 on August 15, 2017, 03:01:29 AM
Got my two figures
Eric
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Brian on August 15, 2017, 04:46:42 AM

Once I get the figures I will sit down and sort it all out and will send out the figures left, including yours Michel when your home
So just waiting now for the guys to get back from Germany  ;)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 15, 2017, 06:29:46 AM
Dear Eric,
Will you indicate which flats you took (should be engraved on base), to help selecting the remainings;
Michel


NEW STATUS as of 15 August 23:00  (European time)

Flats available: (**)
    A1:    3
    A2:    2   (-1)
    A3:    2   (-1)
    A4:    1   (-2)
    A5:    0   (-3)  (let me know if still wish, I have one more)
    A6:    1   (-2)
    A7:    0   (-3)   (let me know if still wish, I have one more)
    A8:    1   (-2)
Total:   10  (-14)


Registered & flats allocated
1. Johnr (GB) =    A5+A6 = will be picked up at Kulmbach by himself, please note the Nos
2. Mike G (US) =             = to be shipped to NY by BFFS (not the A4 please)
3. Joerg (DE) =   A4+A8  = was picked up at Kulmbach
4. Michel (BE) =               = will be allocated later with BFFS
5. Dufour (FR) =  A3+A8  = to be shipped to his home address
6. Daniel C(FR)=  A6+A7  = was picked up at Kulmback
7. Marko (US)  =              = has ordered a set separately
8. Glen (US)  =    A2+A7   = to be shipped to Glen in the USA
9. Francesco (IT)=A5+A7  = to be shipped to his home address in Italy
10. Eric T (FR)   = A4+A5  = was picked at Kulmback  (=errant49)

Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: errant49 on August 15, 2017, 07:16:28 AM
Don't remember the numbers, but they are Boucicaut and the French banner bearer
Eric
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 15, 2017, 08:44:07 AM
look at the pictures A1 to A6 below, you can remmeber these (the three banners are French.)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: errant49 on August 15, 2017, 04:20:56 PM
The one with lily flowers
Eric
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 15, 2017, 04:56:41 PM
A5 !  table adjusted below....

Still two (2)  more people, or six (6), can register to participate ... !!
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: errant49 on August 16, 2017, 05:05:32 AM
If ever there is still a Charles d'Albret available I would paint it too
It fits with the French banner
Eric
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 16, 2017, 06:13:42 AM
Look at table, but first we have to see which flats are back from Kulmbach today or tomorrow. (Has John taken his A6?)

And if so, please return your Boucicault to Brian in the UK because all works by pairs and some more candidates will come, I have to keep the pairs, or to order more from Italy.

We still have to ship some fixed and allocate to Mike and Michel.

I think Brian will give the results after eing in touch with BFFS Kulmbach team ....

 
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Jean_Paul on August 16, 2017, 09:52:19 AM
Can I participed ?


A6 and A8 possible ?


Thanks a lot


Jean Paul
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 16, 2017, 02:32:42 PM
Yes Jean Paul, with pleasure !!


For the choice, let me wait 48 hours, because I have another request by MP, and still two people registered since more than one week (Mike G and ... myself) to see which pieces they selected to be shipped after the return from Kulmbach, as soon as the BFFS team confirms the pieces in their hands !!tI hope tomorrow ... !!

This is to avoid allocate more than present !!
I am send an MP to Mike G to confirm rapidly his choice among the remaining non reserved !!!!

I am also giving here to BFFS the fourth set of 8 that I bought at Kumbach for myself I will take two (A1 and A5) and ask the other six to be shipped from Belgium to Brian, BFFS in England, then adjust the list with the element above.

But we have enough part, just which ones !!!

Mike G, can you give your choice from the list.
I selected one banner (A5) and one A1, that nobody seems to like. The flats are already in Belgium ...


So Tentative DRAFT update as of 16 August 20:00  (European time)

Flats available:
(**) from a total of 32 (maximum 16 participants)
    A1:    3        (-1)      taken by Michel flat is in Belgium today
    A2:    3-1     (-1-1)   under reservation [12]
    A3:    3-1     (-1-1)   under reservation by [12]
    A4:    2+1    (-2+1)  if Eric T returns in exchange of A6 ... (to be confirmed)
    A5:    0        (-4)       taken by Michel, flat is in Belgium today (4th set)
    A6:    2-1-1  (-2-1-1) under reservation by [11] and possibly by Eric T if A4 Boucicaut is returned back to BFFS
    A7:    1         (-3)   
    A8:    2-1      (-2-1)   under reservation by [11]

Total:   12        (-20)     (20 = 10 persons decided, one to choose still and one separately supplied)

still six (6) possible candidates can join !!!!

Registered & flats allocated
1. Johnr (GB)       =  A5+A6   = will be picked up at Kulmbach by himself, please note the Nos
2. Mike G (US)     =               = to be shipped to NY by BFFS  PLEASE CONFIRM CHOICE
3. Joerg (DE)       =  A4+A8   = was picked up at Kulmbach
4. Michel (BE)      =  A1+A5   = selected from the 4th set already in Belgium
5. Dufour (FR)     =  A3+A8   = to be shipped to his home address
6. Daniel C(FR)    =  A6+A7   = was picked up at Kulmback
7. Marko (US)      =  [XX+YY] = has ordered a set separately !!!
8. Glen (US)        =   A2+A7   = to be shipped to Glen in the USA
9. Francesco (IT)  =  A5+A7    = to be shipped to his home address in Italy
10. Eric T (FR)      =  A4+A5    = was picked at Kulmback  (=errant49) but possible switch A6 against A4 !!
11. Jean Paul (FR)= (A6+A8)  = Under reservation at present
12. Henri (DE)     =   (A2+A3)    = via Joerg on 16/08 = Under reservation and confirmation on Thursday


Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Joerg on August 17, 2017, 01:55:36 AM
Henry from Berlin is intetested in painting
A2 and A3 .

Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 17, 2017, 02:20:01 AM
Super !! added.

He is kindly invited to register freely on the forum, for being abl to participte to the project, paced on the publis part of the forum, and benefit of the access to the galleries and public informations offered.
Language will not be a barrier.

As said yesterday I am waiting cofnirmation of the flat brought back by BFFS team from Kulmback,to confirm the latest allocations.

Michel
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Brian on August 17, 2017, 05:03:47 AM

As said yesterday I am waiting cofnirmation of the flat brought back by BFFS team from Kulmback,to confirm the latest allocations.


Me too!!!
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 17, 2017, 10:26:41 AM
Sorry Brian, perhaps came back by bicycle!
Give them a chance ....
           or they are blocked in Calais with the migrants attempting to join your homeland ...
We are only Thursday ..
                             (or perhaps they are willing to stay ....  on the continent ....)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Nicholas Ball on August 17, 2017, 02:04:34 PM
The following figures were taken at Kulmbach

Joerg Scribe.               82 & 86
Eric Talmant.               82 & 83
Daniel Canet.              84 & 85
Peter Dore Blanch       82 & 83
John Russell.              85 & 86

These are out of 3 sets of the 4

I will give Brian the rest of the figures when I see him next week to deal with.       
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 17, 2017, 03:06:01 PM
I 've asked Alain Moerman, president of our AMC club to ship the eight flats A1-A8 minus my two (A1 and A5), so  A2, A3, A4 A6, A7 and A8  of my fourth set, to Brian by courier ..

We can have a global refreshment of available flats next week, compare to requested allocations to be shipped and see what is left-over for future requests ...

Thanks Nick and Brian to work on this, and for your support .....

Michel

Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 20, 2017, 10:51:47 AM
Go Brian and Nick =

After one week, any sign of life of the BFS team back from Kulmbach with the left-over flats ? Or do we need to send an Interpol search for them in Europe ? ::) ;D
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Brian on August 21, 2017, 04:31:48 AM
I will get the figures tomorrow  ;D 
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Nicholas Ball on August 21, 2017, 11:11:33 AM
Brian, I thought Ed wasn't back for another 3 weeks?? ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Brian on August 21, 2017, 11:58:18 AM
Is that 3 weeks from Kulmbach or 3 weeks from now  :)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Brian on August 23, 2017, 03:28:04 PM

Sorted!! ready to post  ;) Jean Paul , have no A8 left so A3 is being sent.


What is happening with Henri, am I to send figures?


Need addresses for Jean Paul and Dufour.


Figures left     A1 X 1,  A2 X 2, A3 X 1    Francesco are you OK with one of these      4 figures left from 3 sets.


Mark are you  taking from you own set? or you could have 2 of the 4 that are left


Another member Peter, had 2 figures in Kulmbach, was not on the list     
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: marko on August 23, 2017, 04:13:36 PM
Hey Brian, I will take from my own set I think - if only someone could acknowledge where it is?  No one seems to know so far?


Regardless great project idea!


mark  8)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: nuray on August 23, 2017, 05:35:55 PM
Sorry, reply from le laptop of my wife Nuray?  I will review tomorrow..

Brian, have you received the six flats if the fourth set, from Belgium ?? (from Alain).
If needed I will call him tomorrow....

Michel
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Jean_Paul on August 24, 2017, 01:27:25 AM
Brian


OK for A2 and A3


I send a MP
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: fsbarile on August 24, 2017, 02:56:55 AM
ok for two figures whatever they are.
Francesco
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Brian on August 24, 2017, 05:16:39 AM

Brian, have you received the six flats if the fourth set, from Belgium ?? (from Alain).

Not yet,  give it a few days then we'll start worrying hahaha
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: nuray on August 24, 2017, 02:16:42 PM
The package with six flats of the set No 4n  will be sent ..... tomorrow morning !!!!  Alain works everyday, post office opens only during working hours, and past two Saturdays, a figurine show occurred where Alain had as President to be present early Saturdays !! (One more next week-end)....

So you should get the package Tuesday, I presule !!

Michel / Hannibal
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 25, 2017, 05:39:05 AM
PC back on use, but I lost all emails since 18 months, so related to this project too, will need to ask again few infos in the coming day... Sorry ... (ut email still not connected, so use MP here)
Michel
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 26, 2017, 03:52:49 AM
Back to life (except for pictures still, not functioning yet).
1) Brian, can you reconfirm status now, because Nick email is confusing, whether the numbers he indicated in his gave are engraved on each flat (82, 86, 85, ...) or the "8" is a translation of the "A" (which would be a problem as they are quiet different from the initial requests expressed), and I have no flat available to see what is the I.D engraved on each flat.
2) Mike D still need to have his two flats selected ad shipped to him in N-Y (Brian)
3) The package with the fourth set contains (in principle)  one piece of A2, A3, A4, A6, A7 and A8 as I asked to remove A1 and A5 for me ....
4) What is Peter situation ? and Henri ...?
5) How many flats left over before arrival of the 4th set, and who is still to be allocated , besides Mike D...
 
If correct, inventory should be as per Brian, and with the 4th set shipped from Belgium (*):
A1:   1+0*
A2:   2+1* but -1 to Jean_Paul
A3:   1+1* but -1 to Jean_Paul
A4:   0+1*
A5:   0+0*
A6:   0+1*
A7:   0+1*
A8:   0+1*
Total: 4+6*  - 2(Jean Paul)  = 8 left

Still to be allocated :   Mike D (2 x), Francesco (x2)  an ?? Henri (x2 ?) or already counted?
Who is Peter and which flats in his hands ...
 
Michel
 
 
 
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Brian on August 26, 2017, 07:53:07 AM


This is where we stand


Collected at Kulmbach
John R   5/6
Eric      4/5
Daniel   6/7
Peter Dore-Blanch   4/5
Joerg    4/8


Posted
DuFour    3/8
Mike G    1/7
Mark       1/3
Glen   2/7
Jean Paul   8/6
Francesco  2/3


Henri just don't know ??


One Pair left from the three sets    1/2 
Title: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 26, 2017, 08:27:56 AM
MP from Henry now requesting 2/3  , please Brian, take them from te fourth set shipped to you from Belgium.  Situation clarifies, thanks to you excellent support ....

After reviewing the list, I come with the following: (* = 4th set in transit)

Available next week :  1   2   4*  6*  7*  8*   = three pairs for three more registrations

 1. Johnr (GB) =    5+6     (Kulmbach)
 2. Mike G (US)     1+7      shipped by Brian
 3. Joerg (DE) =    4+8     (Kulmbach)
 4. Michel (BE) =   1*+5*  selected in Belgium
 5. Dufour (FR) =   3+8     to be shipped by Brian
 6. Daniel C(FR) =  6+7    (Kulmback)
 7. Marko (US) =    1+3    shipped by Brian
 8. Glen (US) =      2+7    shipped by Brian
 9. Francesco (IT)   2+3     shipped by Brian
10. Eric T (FR) =    4+5     (Kulmback)
11. Jean Paul (FR)  6+8     shipped by Brian
12. Henri (DE) =    2*+3*  to be shipped by Brian on receipt of set 4
13. Peter Do-Bl(GB) 4+5  (Kulmbach)
 
So still three(3) places available for this project ...
 
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 26, 2017, 10:05:14 AM
and now another view:
 
A1:      Mike G,   Michel,   Marko,   1
A2:      Glen,  Francesco,   Henri,   1
A3:      Marko,    Dufour,   Francesco,  Henri
A4:      Joerg,    Eric,   Peter DB,   1*
A5:      John R,   Michel,  Eric,   Peter DB
A6:     John R,   Daniel,  Jean_Paul,   1*
A7:     Mike G,   Daniel C,   Glen,   1*
A8:     Joerg,   Dufour,   Jean_Paul,   1*
 
(https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/31/59/25/azinco10.jpg) (https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/31/59/25/azinco10.jpg)

     
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Mike G on August 26, 2017, 03:54:07 PM
Excellent! This will be great
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: closerlookbooks on August 29, 2017, 10:10:47 PM
Please tell me how to order a set of these figures.
Thanks,
Steven Lloyd
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on August 30, 2017, 07:17:42 AM
Please contact Mauro , mp sent separately, he accepts Paypal, and might contact you too.
Michel
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Jean_Paul on August 31, 2017, 12:14:44 PM
Inbox ...  :)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on September 02, 2017, 03:33:35 PM
Hello Brian,
Have all flats been shipped to final painters now?
Are we still with six flats left, three pairs for potential candidates?
 
Michel
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: dufour on September 02, 2017, 03:59:39 PM
two lovely  knights in my box this morning!!!
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Brian on September 03, 2017, 04:08:18 AM

Ok guys this is where we stand


Kulmbach
Johnr (GB) =    5+6 
Joerg (DE) =    4+8
Daniel C(FR) =  6+7
Eric T (FR) =    4+5 
Peter Do-Bl(GB)= 4+5


Posted
Dufour (FR) =   3+8 
Glen (US) =      2+7 
Mike G (US)     1+7 
Jean Paul (FR)  6+8 
Marko (US) =    1+3 


Francesco   (IT)  =2/3still waiting for address
Henri (DE) =    2*+3*     still waiting for conformation before sending


Figures left 1X 1/3/4/6/7/8      2X2

 





Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on September 03, 2017, 04:59:36 AM
what do you mean "waiting for conformation before sending ...?
 
and adding to that list:
Michel    1*/5*   already received
So 13 painters in total
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Tannenberg1410 on September 03, 2017, 06:47:22 AM
Hello everybody

where can I order these beautiful figures unpainted? I like them very much.
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on September 03, 2017, 09:10:28 AM
send an email to mumobenny !
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: beloc zoc on September 03, 2017, 11:33:45 AM

Henri (DE) =    2*+3*     still waiting for conformation before sending


I Confirm. Do you need additional informations?
Best regards Henry
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Brian on September 04, 2017, 06:58:07 AM
All sorted,  Francesco and Henry have figures in the post  ;)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on September 04, 2017, 08:07:54 AM
Thank you Brian !!
Still three, may be four pairs to allocate ......
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: fsbarile on September 04, 2017, 10:44:10 AM
All sorted,  Francesco and Henry have figures in the post  ;)
thank so much
Francesco
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: fsbarile on September 06, 2017, 06:40:13 AM
Got them !
Work is going to start  :)
Francesco
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: beloc zoc on September 06, 2017, 11:31:46 AM
I recieved the flats today. Many thanks!
Best regards henry
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Brian on September 09, 2017, 08:51:41 AM
A day or so has passed, so how are we getting on, have we all got the figures now and who's started painting  ;)   
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Mike G on September 09, 2017, 09:47:38 AM
I've got the figures thanks to Charles and they look great!
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on September 09, 2017, 10:38:40 AM
I'll be back home on September 21st, have toing on 29th.  So will start painting  unpack and visit Alain to get the flats, perhaps at our Club meeting on 29th; So will probably start painting sometime in October ...
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Jean_Paul on September 09, 2017, 12:12:33 PM
Ready to paint
Undercoat 2 sides : Humbrol Surface grey with airbrush

(https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/12/70/35/58/th/img_4213.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/12703558/1137)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on September 09, 2017, 02:11:05 PM
waouww, very clean and white !!!!
Don't hurry, we have time....
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Glen on September 09, 2017, 05:41:29 PM
Nothing yet (as of Saturday's mail). The next mail delivery is Monday afternoon. I'll post here as soon as I get them.


Glen
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Brian on September 10, 2017, 03:22:55 AM

I've got the figures thanks to Charles and they look great!


Three of you got the figures from Charles, he was sending out to you so the figures where added
 

Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Glen on September 12, 2017, 10:01:12 PM
My figures arrived in today's (Tuesday) mail. Will get started soon.


Glen
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Jean_Paul on September 17, 2017, 06:06:44 AM
I went to Menton Show yesterday, i saw the flats painted by Chieli Fabrizio, they are gorgeous. I will erase all drawings of stars and flowers, i do them in free hand
I bought a serie for me
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on September 17, 2017, 06:52:02 AM
I will do so too ! an excellent exercise !
But with Fabrizio, you refer to the top of the top !!
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on September 24, 2017, 08:19:34 PM
Must visit Alain next week, to recuperate my two flats, and so start planning the preparation for painting....
I strated looking at the coloursof the coat of arms, and will probably use brighter colours than Francesco, to avoid a copy paste without any inspiration!!!
But I will keep the light coming from the front left side as standard source to shadow the flats!!
Any new candidate to join ??
 
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on October 02, 2017, 04:51:59 AM
Yes !!!

I found too my two knights, BEAUTIFUL ....

Perhaps I would post the WIP in a separate post to avoid a big mix-up, because I am slow and busy on others, but on this public menu, like "BFFS Agincourt Project 2018 - WIP Michel  (or Hannibal?)" for the two characters.

I have a question to Middle Age specialists = what are the colours worn by the Standard bearers knights.
Here is one A3, standard bearer of the Constable of France painted with light green background and crosses blue, I believe, He has no specific name; is colour lefte to appreciation, or to searches in the History to find out who was bearing the flag?  Engraving was done with a reason perhaps ?

Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: fsbarile on October 02, 2017, 09:20:00 AM
I have a question to Middle Age specialists = what are the colours worn by the Standard bearers knights.
Here is one A3, standard bearer of the Constable of France painted with light green background and crosses blue, I believe, He has no specific name; is colour lefte to appreciation, or to searches in the History to find out who was bearing the flag?  Engraving was done with a reason perhaps ?
Basically standard bearers worn colours recalling those of the lord, obiouvsly non wearing same heraldry. In this case however i think you are speaking of the stadard of Constable of France intended as first officer of the crown , white with yellow fleur de lys,  and not of Charles d'Albert in himself  which has his own banner bearer. In this case I think you can choise any coluors you enjoy, in a vignette Mario Venturi represent the bearer wearing a dark red tunic with gold/yellow  figures.
Hope this is usefull.
Francesco
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: fsbarile on October 02, 2017, 10:34:17 AM
Perhaps I would post the WIP in a separate post to avoid a big mix-up, because I am slow and busy on others, but on this public menu, like "BFFS Agincourt Project 2018 - WIP Michel  (or Hannibal?)" for the two characters.


Should any of us follow this way ? I found it very good ..
Cheers
Francesco
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on October 02, 2017, 11:16:09 AM
Thank you Francesco, for your two replies !
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Brian on October 13, 2017, 05:48:32 AM

How are you all getting on with the project??   still got 6 figures left if you want to join the fun.
Will be 3 joining and you get 2 figures sent at random  ;)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on October 13, 2017, 05:56:44 AM
I will start working on end next week; because we have Veldhoven, and I just acquire a new camera Nikkon, which I have to learn using correctly if possible before next Friday !
 
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Glen on October 25, 2017, 02:57:42 PM
I'm cleaning up and priming mine. Tried to do it during ReaperCon, but I was pulled in too many different directions and finally started working on the Dark Elf Ranger.


Just to be clear:


These are two sided figures; I am painting one or both sides?


I am painting these according to the previously posted refs; red surcoat with yellow diamonds on one and a brown gambeson on the dude holding the banner (and the banner itself is also painted as shown in the refs).


Correct?


Glen


While I wait I will enjoy a soft musical interlude of Blackmore's Night...  8)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Glen on October 28, 2017, 11:32:25 AM
Ok, no feedback. I'm going with the existing refs and one sided. Charge!
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on October 28, 2017, 12:07:14 PM
Sorry Glen, read now only.
1) I plan to paint one side only, light from the front left side as these flats will be exposed in a frame, not in a diorama
2) Colours are set by the coat of arms for the most;  your figure is Jacques III de Heilly, killed at Agincourt, his coat of arms is "De gueules, à une bande fusellée d'or", so colours are Red and Yellow  (I can't attach figure from my laptop now).
Jacques III of Créquy, sun of Jacques II de Créquy, lord of Heilly, served the duke of Burgundy Jean Sans Peur of which he was one of the main captains. In 1408, he marched against the Liege to restore their bishop on the episcopal seat. In 1413, he was made Lieutenant General of Guyenne. As a prisoner in Bordeaux, he fled. He took part in the battle of Agincourt in 1415 and was killed by the English, on the grounds that, against his word, he had escaped from his prison.
The nuance of red and yellow you wish to give is up to you, either bright, saturated or not; the colours we hav today from historical flags an paintings have been somewhat been faded by exposure to the aging and sunlight.
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Glen on October 28, 2017, 04:54:41 PM
Thanks. Already well on them. I've noticed the standard bearer figure has a brown gambeson, but the references show the gambeson as being a light tan color with the standard emblem over the figure's heart. I'm going to try an paint this, but the Fleur de Lis' will probably be little more than a dot pattern applied with a toothpick. I'm painting my light direction from the upper right front because that's the direction they're facing. When all else fails ...light the face.

Pressing on!
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on October 28, 2017, 05:01:17 PM
I saw the painted set at Veldhoven with the vendor and will post them on the laptop of my wife later tonight in this answer .....  Keep in mind this is the interpretation of the painter, not a mandatoy box art!
Michel

(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/19/31/59/25/vv_20110.jpg)

(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/19/31/59/25/vv_20111.jpg)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Glen on October 29, 2017, 10:21:59 AM
This is the primary reference I'm using. It was posted very early in this thread. Note the lighter color of the gambeson and the chest insignia. Some of the details on the artwork were not duplicated on the figures, but I'll work around it.

Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on October 29, 2017, 12:45:49 PM
The standard bearer I believe has not necessirily to bear the coat of arms like the owner of the coat of arms; this small drawing looks perhaps more like the modern sign of a golf club on his chest, than the historical representation of past unfiform of the bearer as it was on that date ...
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Glen on November 05, 2017, 09:23:19 AM
OK, so the presence of the Coat of Arms on the standard bearers chest is a big 'maybe'...? I can see it being present to indicate a person's affiliation with the boss, but then again, maybe not. I/we don't know the the true source material of the original illustration, so I'm thinking there may be some 'artistic licence' here. I think I will add it because it's adds some color to the figure's body.


Glen
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: willie on November 05, 2017, 10:12:20 AM
Glen try looking at the Dictionary of Heraldry Feudal Coasts of Arms and Pedigress  By Joseph Foster  get the one with the blue cover it has the color in it.  Also Le Costume L'Armure ET Les Armes Au Temps DE LA Chevalerie BY Liliane et Fred Funcken  :o Willie
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Jean_Paul on November 05, 2017, 12:11:31 PM
On the air ... 30mm it's very small  ;)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on November 05, 2017, 12:46:19 PM
I have the Funcken book in PDF, will have a look tonight ...
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Jean_Paul on November 05, 2017, 01:43:01 PM
Men At Arms 113 The Armies of Agincourt
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Jean_Paul on November 06, 2017, 03:48:15 PM
Finish one ... ;)



Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on November 06, 2017, 04:20:22 PM
Magnifique !! Bravo !
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: marko on November 06, 2017, 04:33:40 PM
Yes, that is indeed stunning, particularly given the size of this figure.  Beautiful work.


mark
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Glen on November 07, 2017, 10:32:33 AM
Well done, JP! I will have to up my game...
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Jean_Paul on November 07, 2017, 12:24:02 PM
Thanks a lot ....  :)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Jean_Paul on November 10, 2017, 05:55:13 PM
 :)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Hannibal on November 11, 2017, 06:27:57 AM
oups, excellent progresses!!
It is time for us all to start doing something.  I am on another set of five characters now, then will move to the first character in December ....
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: Jean_Paul on November 11, 2017, 05:44:14 PM
 8)
Title: Re: BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Agincourt French Commanders 1415
Post by: marko on November 11, 2017, 06:34:58 PM
Excellent Jean Paul!


mark  8)