International Flat Figure Society - British Flat Figure Society

Flat Figures Painters Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: Hannibal on September 24, 2018, 05:28:11 AM

Title: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on September 24, 2018, 05:28:11 AM
Hello Guys ......

What do you think of a painting challenge for next year with this (Benedikt Widmann) (85mm) ?

(https://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/19/31/59/25/_80010.jpg)


Greg is busy, I will start in January ... who wishes to join?
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Brian on September 24, 2018, 07:13:12 AM

This is a challenge that some will find to difficult to paint!!
  But have a go and see how you do, we are not all to the standard of Nick, Trevor and Eric and this is not what is being asked but just to be part of the project
You'll pay for your figure, paint it the best you can and show it on the forum, if at one of the shows mentioned show your figure there and maybe walk away with the prize.
There's no difficulty in getting the figures ether from Benedikt or myself, price depends on how many take part.     
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: kevind on September 24, 2018, 07:20:15 AM
Its a beautiful figure, as are all of Benedikts but, IMHO, its a bit too much for the average painter and not of a subject many people care to paint. Perhaps the project could be a choice of 3 figures of Benedikts, chosen by the Society.
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on September 24, 2018, 07:30:53 AM
Hey, why not ??
One subject can be historical, another fantastc and a third a bust, or an animal.
The Society can meet (phsically or electronically) and have a vote, suggesting three figures ....

ending up with an article in the Journal during the second half of 2019 ....
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Brian on September 24, 2018, 08:48:28 AM
Sounds good!! but keep this figure in the chose of three  ;)
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Joerg on September 24, 2018, 11:31:58 AM
85 mm in all (including dragon)
or just the Samurai ?
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on September 24, 2018, 12:18:31 PM
I done have it in my hands, but I thing it is total size of the dragon ; the fighter himself is not higher that 54mm
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: kevind on September 25, 2018, 08:24:13 AM
I would think any figure above the scale of 54mm would be acceptable as one of the three selected by the members.

Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on September 26, 2018, 05:29:31 AM
We 're already six participants in France and Belgium for the Dragon fighter ! we will coordinate there on a French forum in parallel. 
We follow Greg ... who is leading the painting since September 15th, and will finish before us ...

But this can be an international party among fanatics of flats painters .... throughout 2019
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: kevind on September 26, 2018, 08:44:25 AM
Does that mean it will be only the Dragon Fighter.

Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on September 26, 2018, 10:16:42 AM
In France and Belgium, yes, via a local French Forum, but members of BFFS expressed also the wish to have a choice among 3 flats.
I let BFFS Committee to select two more as proposal, before registering and proceeding to supply directly and grouped (if to the USA) or via Tin Toy Soldiers ...  I am not familiar with the taste of painters oversea, and I will paint a Dragon Fighter myself (among other paintings ...).

By the way, we are now 10 today here ... and Benedikt cannot cast before ed of next week ... (but we have time too..).

I have initiated the same project (dragon fighter) on a German Forum also today, perhap to group all of them at the World Expo in 2020 ? or Kulmbach, regionally too ...
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on September 27, 2018, 05:20:47 AM
Today 13 candidates in France and Germany ...
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Brian on September 28, 2018, 06:17:37 AM

Well Michel, not a big response from the guys at the BFFS!!  we're all over the world and over 100 full members and 500 plus on this forum and no one what's to join in!!!


I will be painting the Dragon figure so add me to the list, the rest I just don't understand? Just don't what to be part of anything that could be fun and a good way of getting new friends! 
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: kevind on September 28, 2018, 07:27:53 AM
I would be happy to participate, have done so in the past...just have no interest it the flat chosen. Am sure I am not alone in this.
Best of luck with the Project.
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Brian on September 28, 2018, 08:25:19 AM

I understand Kevin, if it's not your thing then it's a no go ;)



Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on September 28, 2018, 10:11:15 AM
Well OK, sorry for kevind ... 

I just registered the 14th in Europe today (12 in France and 2 in Germany) and [u]thank you [/u][/b]Brian for your participation .. ! and I will support you but from January onwards.. (can't get my hand n it before December)

And in England ? with the many legends existing around? nor inspiration of the Loch Ness monster in Scotland?  (I have not seen him during my fantastic journey a couple of years ago....)

(of course we already have Eric and Daniel, and myself).  I do also on a previous proposal, that members of BFFS expressed their wish to have once a non historical subject to paint .... reason of my enthousiam here ...


You have however a dragon in England, with the WYVERNE (draconis albionensis) and the WORM (draconis menatoda), remeber le Lambton worm, and in the USA, the PIASA (one Draconis avis), in Alva, Illinois ...
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on September 28, 2018, 01:33:38 PM
Now 16 ...
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Jean_Paul on September 29, 2018, 06:51:13 AM
I would be happy to participate, have done so in the past...just have no interest it the flat chosen. Am sure I am not alone in this.
Best of luck with the Project.
like me ... i'm not interest about this flat ...


One question, when can we see the actual project finish ?
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on September 29, 2018, 09:55:11 AM
End of next year, but it dépends, with ne participant, I would suggest Brian to join us on the French forum , if no one else is interested;.  I will close the registration in two weeks as we do in France ...
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Joerg on September 29, 2018, 12:06:09 PM
I will participate with the dragon slayer.
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on September 29, 2018, 01:57:00 PM
Thank you Joerg, very happy to receive your interest.

I am adding your need to the other one for Benedikt to provide suffisant castings.

Let me just know whether you will obtain it from Benedikt directly by yourself, being in Germany, I understand, or get it during one of the coming shows to avoid shipping costs (being in Turkey, I will get mine two at Sèvres early December).  I don't think Benedilt is attending the Veldhoven show in October (he is not listed in the vendors).

I will open also a theme soon called Dragon Fighter Project 2018-2019 for the participants, so Greg , Eric and perhaps Daniel can also place a summary of their work too aswell as myself, with you and Brian.

Free to you anyway to register in any contests as the main purpose is to share painting, quetions, and interprétations of this flat with today 17 painter.  I will also load the final paintings of the European particpants in our gallery,  Mark can open a gallery in due time (not urgent).

I will encourage also EU participants to come and look at our Forum, altough language can be an obstacle fr several of them, to increase inter-continent dialogue in flat painting.


Mark, Nick, what is the best folder to open this post, from now on?  (public or member, wnd where ...)....

 
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Joerg on September 30, 2018, 03:57:42 AM
Michel,
I will obtain the figure directly from Benedict.

By the way -it would be useful to get some information, how to contact Benedict.  His website is down, and what I can see at the linked Facebook-site is not really trustworthy  >:(

Regards
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: fesak_j on September 30, 2018, 07:14:44 AM
 8)  ....  i m in, Michel  :D  as since jun I painted only a room for a newborn kid - 00 brush/ pink  ;D 
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on September 30, 2018, 10:30:05 AM
Great fesak_j !!  Thanks for joining us ....

We have the whole range of painters experience, and the forum intends also to help, guide and support all of us ...

1) This flat is regularly posted on EBay.de by Benedikt Widmann Under the pseudo "Pisanello" under the name "Zinnfigur Flachfigur The Dragon Fighter "  There i one offered for bidding right now, ending up on Mnday 01 Otober 20:14 local time !!! (tomorrow).

2) Benedikt can be directly contacted via email at kontemplation@gmx.de , his email. You can order his flats there, or buy from his stand at contests, His web site is indeed no longer activated.  Payment is by Paypal, using his email address , or Banking transfer using his IBAN number (please ask him, I will no post it myself!)

3) Benedikt short term is busy till today or early next week, and will now recceid a request for some 19 casting of the dragon fighter to include all your requests, I will give him a list of your name, to reserve the pieces, so he can cross them out if you order to him directly.

4) You can also contact Benedikt via EBay.de by asking a question on any object on sales  (ask for "Flache zinnfiguren" ), and he will reply via EBay also, to your email, if you tick at bottom of question raise "copy the answer on my email too", via your nickname on eBay.



to: feask_j =  shall you contact and buy directly from Benedikt or EBay or do yu wish me to orginize a shipment to you, in which case I will need your home address by mp, and how you intend to pay.

you are the 19th participant globally ... (what is your first name?)

Michel/Hannibal
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: fesak_j on October 01, 2018, 08:15:41 AM
Michel  ;)

I ll write Benedikt directly. My first name: Jozef
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on October 01, 2018, 09:44:46 AM
thank you, I sent him the list of participants this morning; he will expect you sign so!!

He already got contact with Brian and Jeorg.
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on October 02, 2018, 08:44:54 AM
Today we are twenty (20) participants, with Frank Dittmar joining us in Germany !
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Glen on October 02, 2018, 10:30:12 AM
I'm going to pass as well. I noted the dragon seems to have been inspired by this illustration, but the samurai has been greatly simplified and turned to face the dragon. Looking at depictions of Asian dragons, I've also noted that they tend to be wingless and colorful. Have fun with it.
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on October 02, 2018, 11:24:03 AM
This is a Japanese dragon, with three fingers, and a samurai warrior (fantastic) upfront.  If I am right, they don't have wings in Japan, more looking as a snake.  Largest wings are found in European mythology (see Harry Potter, or Games of Thrones).


Thanks for your information Glen and feel sad old mythologies do not inspire our overseas colleagues as much as here in the old continent... perhaps because we identify more ourselves to our older traditions and myths here and they are more part of our heritage;

When reading the descriptions of dragons, however it is surprising that many countries have described dragons in their mythlogies since over more than 2000 years, even at times they did not know each other, which raises the question : are we sure they have really never existed ??  (I discover for example Hebrews, Hindous, Azteks ...) .... unless Adam met they at the origin .....


We are now 21 , one more in France ....
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on October 06, 2018, 09:36:29 AM
Jean-Pierre Duthilleul (FR) is joining us today , so we are 22 now, all in the continental Europe, except our best friend Brian.
I will open a new subject in the BFFS members and close this one next week.
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on October 13, 2018, 05:19:26 PM
Tonight 13 October, we are now 28 participants
  1 in UK
  1 in CZ
  4 in BE
  4 in DE
18 in FR

Congratulations to all.

I will close this subject on Monday, and open on in the Members only, Workbench,for Brian and the European BFFS participants wiling to post their paintings also here (myself, Eric, Daniel, Michel, ..)
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Brian on October 14, 2018, 04:22:02 AM

Another from the UK is painting the figure!!!   Phil Young from sunny Portsmouth has asked to join in  ;)
I'll send his figure out Monday. 
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Joerg on October 14, 2018, 04:23:53 AM
except our best friend Brian, still part of Europe today (for les than one year) ... !!

I am not sure, if this forum is the stage for (false) political statements.  ;D
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: errant49 on October 14, 2018, 07:47:11 AM
This is just to convince that something can be done with this figure
Here is my interpretation
Eric
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Erich on October 14, 2018, 07:59:56 AM
@   Eric        very impressive - I like it

Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Joerg on October 14, 2018, 01:05:34 PM
This is just to convince that something can be done with this figure
Here is my interpretation
Eric

Well, the award for the Understatement of the Year goes tooooo....
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Brian on October 14, 2018, 01:15:21 PM
Love it!!
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Erich on October 14, 2018, 04:11:58 PM
I hope that this thread will not disappear in the members area...
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: dufour on October 30, 2018, 03:16:48 PM
my dragon is finished !!thank you MICHEL for cleanning my picture
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on October 30, 2018, 04:31:56 PM
Congratulations, Greg !!

But you are challenging now very severily the other 30 participants !!!!  (Yes, we are now 31 participants registered for this project).  It will be very hard to be original and to demonstrate te same level .....

We should bring and consolidate for the event day, our works next year at each (European) exposition and show to see the diversification among us !

We shall try to designate a meeting table at each contest ..

Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Brian on December 10, 2018, 07:32:32 AM
And mine! good figure to paint, you guys are missing out  ;)   
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Hannibal on December 10, 2018, 03:21:22 PM
Wouawww Brian, so colourful!!
Many of us have collected our Dragon flat at Sèvres on the table of Benedikt Widmann !!
So normally, January and February should be hot in painting .....
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Joerg on May 15, 2019, 03:05:47 AM
Houston, we have a problem !

The German Post has remarkably enhanced its post fees,
what led to the point, that no abroad letter is allowed to contain any thing,
except from a sheet of paper or an usb-stick.

Therefore the cheapest way to bring a single figure from Germany to Belgium
is a parcel for another 9,19 EUR.

It would be very welcomed, if anyone could give me an German address, where the German contributions could be collected,
to reduce the overall shipping fees for the partipitants.

Otherwise a (not really comfortable) way could be, to build the frame for the project and finally complete it in Kulmbach on the spot.
Title: Re: Proposal of Project for 2019 Kulmbach and Eindhoven
Post by: Brian on July 27, 2019, 11:27:30 AM
Michel we have the painted figures, where do you want them at Kulmbach  ;)