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Title: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on May 14, 2016, 03:34:09 PM
Hello.

This will be my first trial of big sized flat figure, based on Maxim Gorelik's drawing from the book Great Atlas of the history and culture of Kazakhstan. I could not call this work under a specific sized category name because I dont know if such category is exists in flat world..

Barak Khan (years of ruling 1423-1428) was Khan of Ak Orda, son of Kuyyrshak Khan and grandson of Orys Khan. That time Barak Khan was one of the influential khans. He participated in construction of Sygnak city. In 1423, Barak Khan started to carry on the policy against Maverannarkh. In 1425 he required to return ancient lands of Ak Orda along Syrdariya River. At the beginning of 1427 troops of Ulugbek and Barak Khans started an exterminatory war. Only after the interference of Girat's troops headed by Shakhrukh Barak Khan had to come back to Desht-i-Kipchak. Sygnak city again became the center of Orys Khan's offspring.

Barak, the grandson of Urus Khan was the last khan of the Ak Orda in the period when it was weakened and defeated by Tamerlane. A large part of the Ak Horde was entered in Khanate of Abulkhair , the rest of Ak-Orda was a part of the Nogai Horde.

I made a standart start. Prepared Super Sculpey - Fimo clay mix. Rolled it out up to some 2 mm. thickness and pinned and tooled outline excess parts after pinning..



So main hulk is ready and waiting to be detailing..
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Nicholas Ball on May 14, 2016, 05:40:56 PM
You've got your work cut out for you there Serhan ( no pun intended ::)) :)
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: willie on May 14, 2016, 08:44:08 PM
 This is going to be neat  :o Willie
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on May 15, 2016, 05:24:54 AM
Thank you both.. Made my mood today  ;D ..


Serhan-
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Hannibal on May 15, 2016, 06:03:01 AM
Very interesting as Step-by-step process !!!
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: nmrocks on May 15, 2016, 10:03:38 AM
great subject matter.
Ray
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on May 15, 2016, 04:03:51 PM
Thank you Gentlemen,


I worked on face about 2 hour  but not so much happy with the result.. I will try one more day on this..


What do you think ? Total restart on face or just act locally??


Serhan-





Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Rich Sculpts on May 16, 2016, 03:45:31 AM



What do you think ? Total restart on face or just act locally??




Hi Serhan, I think you should check the proportions of the head and the helmet. The head appears to be in scale but the helmet is too short so it gives the face a squashed look. See the image below and it will show the difference.


(http://www.richardodell.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/serhan-sculpt.jpg)


Also create a little more depth on the sides of the face.


Hope this helps?


-Rich
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on May 16, 2016, 07:01:34 AM
Yes Richard thank you so much.


Serhan-
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on May 19, 2016, 11:50:12 AM
Hello.


Going slow.Sometimes back to head doing something.. This was more hard then I expected..


Serhan-


Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on May 23, 2016, 02:57:12 PM
I have little some process on Barak the bad boy..


Serhan-




Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Hannibal on May 23, 2016, 06:18:58 PM
Looks very nice, but I would not have the hand with an exernal proeminent line around , It will create a shadow on painting disturbing the hand ... Round it rather smoothly.
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on May 24, 2016, 04:51:35 PM
Hello Michel,


I am sorry I could not catch your point.. Which place you want me change?



Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Hannibal on May 24, 2016, 06:27:45 PM
Sorry Serhan, it was on the second picture below, but younger that the other, before the hands were totally shaped. The last hands are perfect .....
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on May 26, 2016, 07:43:02 AM
No problem Michel, hope you are enjoying in Mugla well.


Only small things such as belts & ropes, riding things details, horse armor details left to do ..

With the next update I am planning to finish sculpting stage..Photos with the direct sunlight.

Serhan-
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on May 27, 2016, 09:46:56 AM
Hello, just fined some details which were disturbing me and also added some small things like ear rings etc...


I will be in Spain Zumaia  one or two weeks and back on this about mid June..


Serhan-

Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Rich Sculpts on May 27, 2016, 11:19:45 AM
Super work Sohan. A difficult sculpt - but your almost there - its looking good!


-Rich
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on May 27, 2016, 11:43:58 AM
Richard, what do you think, if I make scepter on his right hand as saparate part, like 3D and add afterwards??


I hate to fill empty space behind parts until 0 level, which are positioned little away from the figures body. It breaks sight very badly.


Or bad idea?


Serhan-
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Rich Sculpts on May 27, 2016, 12:49:39 PM
The sceptre? A good idea, I've seen a resin flat by Ken Farrar (milmart (http://www.puttyandpaint.com/mil-mart)) that has done something similar.


(http://www.puttyandpaint.com/images/uploads/artistworks/7763/cache/1a__sized_center_m.jpg)


-Rich
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on June 17, 2016, 06:44:28 AM
I finished this project..


Scepter and harness will be addition as 3D parts.


Serhan-

Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Roger on June 17, 2016, 07:07:54 AM
That looks very nice Serhan and will look great painted.
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Hannibal on June 17, 2016, 09:44:59 AM
I need to go back to the previous buste, but this one looks very nice  !!!! to paint  !!!
Will contact you ....
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on June 17, 2016, 01:04:17 PM
Hello.


Roger thank you.


Michel thank you. I just bake him and primed before sending to RTV.


I let the horse harness details to the modeler's scratch ability. I did not wanted to add those details due harness passes between horse head and body which would not seen nice after moulding.


So adding harness will seen nicer on the model, same as the scepter.


Serhan-
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on June 18, 2016, 07:04:54 AM
Hello,


First of the copy will go to Michel.


Serhan-



Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Hannibal on June 18, 2016, 09:53:36 AM
I will do all my best to make a nice painting ....
I am warming up my brushes
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on June 19, 2016, 07:39:50 AM
I primed one of the copy.


Will try paint this giant between sculpting hussar..


 
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on June 19, 2016, 03:12:37 PM
Some coloring.


Serhan-
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on June 19, 2016, 04:51:33 PM
Finally its ready to some washes, shadows & lights and abra cadabra...


Serhan-



 
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on June 24, 2016, 10:51:27 AM
add some paint..


this is some hard to paint due huge areas I belive... brush already tired..


Serhan-



Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Hannibal on June 24, 2016, 11:32:35 AM
Yes il is huge, need brushes No 1 to 3; not 0 to 3/0!!!
Nce effect ...
Title: Re: Barak - The Last Khan of the Ak Orda
Post by: Serhan Oflas on June 24, 2016, 04:50:56 PM
Thank you Michel.